I agree with this. I cringe whenever he speaks to a ref and it never helps us, he just antagonizes them.

Compare that with Morley who, while having many run-ins with refs, knew how to speak to them.

Watch it again and you’ll hear Hill explaining that his family is stuck in the middle of that. While the ref wants his team to play the penalty and possibly cause more aggro. The two consecutive high tackles probably incited or at least contributed to what happened in the crowd to some level. More wouldn’t help. Stop finding fault where there isn’t any; yes Hill isn’t a saint and was possibly at fault elsewhere in the game, as in many other games, but not in that particular instance.

The ref wanted him to tap the ball and kick it off the pitch so he could end the game, how would that cause more agro? If he had just done that when the ref asked instead of constantly asking him to end the game there and then, after Child had already explained repeatedly he couldn't do that, it would have been over quicker.

James Child's performance was one of the weakest I have witnessed (from the sofa), he is not of the required standard and he does not command any respect from the players.

There were things going on that have no place in the game and those in charge should be looking directly at that and dealing with him in the appropriate manner.

Chris Hill should be removed from captaincy before the next game he is not capable, he is not a leader.

As for the other stuff that went on, I wasn't there, neither were the vast majority on the those commenting so lets leave that to those who can sift the information, videos and testimony to at least try and resolve the issues we are now faced with.

Well, Mr Cyclops knowing the scoreline with a wry smile I watched the game last night with a fair bit of neutrality and you seem to have omitted quite a lot of foul play by Wire to allow Rat Boy 4 penalty shots at goal.

It will be interesting to see what the 8 eyed disciplinary panel will make of it all I suspect the incidents will be a plenty like pages from "War and Peace".

My final perspective on the criticism of James Child is that he should have called time on the 78 mins, result was decided and no one was interested in playing any further part because of the crowd trouble, he will probably learn from that and will be instructed accordingly.

We will see yes. I wonder which team will end up with the most banned players after that game? I'm confident the 8 eyes will be nearer my views than yours. I'd gladly have a wager with you if you're confident? As for Child blowing early he's not allowed to blow early even if common sense dictates he should.

I would imagine McLlorum and Edwards would cop definite bans of a couple of matches and maybe Hill and Mamo on the wire side with a one match or a conduct caution. I think they will ignore the Philbin Flops and the Patton Clothes Lines because I think Catalan got rewarded with some 2pt penalties from those.

As for the crowd trouble there will be a big question mark over the stewards or lack of, to allow the mob scuffle to escalate, for the Wire fans there were 2 or 3 definitely over aggressive and they should have mug shots of those.

"Warrington fans are thugs"

I challenge anyone to not kick off if you have someone, that someone being ex-wire player Ben Pomeroy, throwing glass bottles into the wire fans. Then all the catalan fans throwing chairs and snapping legs off tables and using them as weapons. Warrington fans are thugs you all say? easy to jump to conclusions when they just show pictures of wire fans climbing into a corporate area. People should research why they were doing so.

Kenny Edwards urging the french fans on to kick it off whilst Hill was asking the Ref to blow up because his family was up in the Box.

Wire fans are thugs? Perhaps we're not angelic but the majority of the blame lands at the feet of the frenchies up in that box and Catalan as a club for not having adaquat stadium security.

And as for the Ref causing all the argo, though he is not responsible for the actions of the crowd, he does have to take some blame. the sheer frustration he caused from his lack of ability to control the game caused the away fans to vent their frustrations at the ref. The catalan fans then were throwing ale into the crowds and laughing. so in essence he does have a part to play.

Straight after the first fight he should have come down hard on any infringement and stamped his authority. but in the following sets after there were high shots, flops, knees in the tackle, wrestling in the ruck and he just let it slide. It's almost as though he thought "Oh, Hicks let the game flow in the semi-final and it made the game better... I think i'm going to do the same" the man is a complete embarressment to the RFL officials and has been for close to 10 years. How he is still employed as a full time Ref is beyond me.

If thats not warrington playing, then its a regular saturday night where everyone on forums and social media are complaining about catalans standard tactics and incompetant reffing. As most friday nights are.

Ben Pomeroy was throwing glass bottles at the Warrington fans? Is this actually true? If so, was it bottles, or just the one? Was this an isolated incident blown up massively by the heat and the alcohol? Why was he throwing bottles at fans of his former club? I'm confused.



I thought you said it was Ben Pomeroy's fault? Now it's all the French people? Some pretty big jingosim on show there and some big accusations. I wasn't there so can't comment on how it started, but it's perfectly clear from the videos people are sharing that there was no ongoing use of objects by those in the box, in fact there is no evidence of it at all.

Child should of blown for full time.on the TV it shows over 80 minutes played he awards us the penalty and ratchford just boots the ball out..then he blew up for ft...daft if you ask me..as for mcloride Edwards hill mamo (udder man)don't forget Fatboy he should cop a ban or 2 but we all remember last years gf when he should of been sent off...

Not really sure why Hill would cop a ban. He just mouthed off a bit because his family may have been caught up in the violence in the stands. Maybe a caution for swearing but then all the players every game would get one for that.

I'd imagine Casty will be quite nervous today. Could be looking at a significant ban for his involvement in the final brawl, along with Tomkins.

Possibly, on the plus side, he (Casty) did seem to be the one to get Kenny Edwards under control (eventually).

Again... I'd just leave, as quite a few Warrington fans did. Why are people acting like Warrington fans had no choice but to climb into the corporate box?