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Quote: Rogues Gallery "But it doesn't matter.

The maximum offset against the salary cap is a max maximum of 50% and a maximum of £50K.

Which other player has done 10 years at Warrington?

I think there is also minimum number of qualifying games at the club.'"
exactly briers is on 50k paul wood probably the same half of each is 25k x 2 = 50k offset simples

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Quote: the original stevo "exactly briers is on 50k paul wood probably the same half of each is 25k x 2

Will Wood have played the requisite number of games?
I doubt it.

Jon Clarke was at Wigan in 1998 and spent time at her Majestys pleasure before playing again at Wigan and then moving to London Broncos.
he has not completed 10 years at Warrington.

I also doubt that Briers is only on £50K, he turned down a three year contract at Barrow.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Will Wood have played the requisite number of games?
I doubt it.

Jon Clarke was at Wigan in 1998 and spent time at her Majestys pleasure before playing again at Wigan and then moving to London Broncos.
he has not completed 10 years at Warrington.

I also doubt that Briers is only on £50K, he turned down a three year contract at Barrow.'"


Remind me why we are having this conversation. Live cap = no rule breaks.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Will Wood have played the requisite number of games?
I doubt it.

Jon Clarke was at Wigan in 1998 and spent time at her Majestys pleasure before playing again at Wigan and then moving to London Broncos.
he has not completed 10 years at Warrington.

I also doubt that Briers is only on £50K, he turned down a three year contract at Barrow.'"


You seem to know everything.

You still certain about who is and is not making the top 8?

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Your inferiority complex shines like a beacon in the night. All I said was that 10 RL clubs are being investigated, and the results should be known within three months.

I'm led to believe that Warrington and Wigan are amongst those clubs.

That's not getting y as you so eloquently put it, merely stating fact.

And if you want to attack Lindsay then have the common sense to get your facts right.

If it wasn't for him the game would have been dead and buried by now at proffessional level.

The fact that the clubs didn't use the money they got properly and in the main were run by a bunch of amateurs, was not his fault.

He did not appoint himself as head of Superleague.

With Lindsay in charge we were playing in front of 60,000 crowds v Australia and New Zealand at Wembley.

Where's our ambition as game now?'"
lets talk about facts uncle mo sold us out.. full stop, even you cannot deny he had wigans interest above other clubs?

mergers prove this! wire and widnes i ask you.. the man is a disgrace! you look at the game through tinted glassess!








i am not inferior, neither is my club. what have you won this year?

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I didn't say that John Clarke had completed 10 years, what I said was that he was pretty close to it.

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Quote: SLIMply the best "lets talk about facts uncle mo sold us out.. full stop, even you cannot deny he had wigans interest above other clubs?

mergers prove this! wire and widnes i ask you.. the man is a disgrace! you look at the game through tinted glassess!








i am not inferior, neither is my club. what have you won this year?'"


Absolute rubbish.

Mo got the best deal ever for Rugby League. We're actually getting less from Sky now than we got back in 1996. Some Superleague clubs chose to fritter the money away.

Lindsay actually wanted to ringfence some of that money but it got voted out by chairmen for their own clubs interest.

As I said look at the International game when lindsay was in charge, we were playing at Wembley and Old Trafford with 50, 60 and 70,000 crowds.

If we had someone at the top now with his vision and drive the game would be in a lot better position. He was the only administrator the Aussies respected and listened to.

Don't forget it was Lindsay who brought in the salary cap, just to get back on topic.

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rogues, you don't see things the same way as me, thats for sure,
mo cornered us and all clubs by giving them a deadline for the whole package, forcing clubs to jump to the summer era.

i noticed he didn't think about merging wigan and leigh did he?

PSG what a great idea that was!

the fact we get less money now reflects on the current leadership.

your deluded if you think he put other clubs ahead of wigan!


Calder
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i ask you, please

it would have killed RL

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Absolute rubbish.

Mo got the best deal ever for Rugby League. We're actually getting less from Sky now than we got back in 1996. Some Superleague clubs chose to fritter the money away.
Lindsay actually wanted to ringfence some of that money but it got voted out by chairmen for their own clubs interest.

As I said look at the International game when lindsay was in charge, we were playing at Wembley and Old Trafford with 50, 60 and 70,000 crowds.

If we had someone at the top now with his vision and drive the game would be in a lot better position. He was the only administrator the Aussies respected and listened to.

Don't forget it was Lindsay who brought in the salary cap, just to get back on topic.'"
IE. WIGAN who after ten years of paying vast wage bills had no ground of their own!

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Interesting point there. Yes it was Uncle Mo who brought in the Salary Cap. But didn't he then go on to break it?

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Quote: SLIMply the best "IE. WIGAN who after ten years of paying vast wage bills had no ground of their own!'"


Mo actually helped that.

The building of the Whitbread / Boston stand was under his tenure. The costs escalated out of all proportion as there was mining subsidy when the building of the stand began. It left a huge hole (excuse the pun) in Wigans finances.

Then when the ARL / Superleague war broke out in Australia there was a lot of silly money being offered to players to move over to Aus. You may remember that Connolly and Robinson were two who accepted contracts (although in the end they didn't go)

Wigan were dominant at that time, so had the players that the Aussies wanted. They had two choices, up the players wages to compete with the Aussie offers or let them go.

Jack Robinson (Mo had gone to the RFL ) and his directors at the time decided to pay the players more. That's how Wigan got into trouble so you could say that Mo was a big part of the attack on Wigan and not a defender.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, and maybe Wigan should have let the players go and rebuilt the team again.

Saints around this time were buying the likes of Newlove, Sculthorpe, Sullivan, Nickle, Matautia, Martyn and Goulding.

The rest is history. It's difficult for you because of the Widnes / Warrington proposed merger, but some of them would have worked.

Cumbria is still crying out for a superleague team.

Where are those thousands of fans who marched at Wakefield, Cas and Fev. They are not attending the matches.

A combined Fax and Huddersfield side could have worked.

PSG was the wrong choice of location, it should have been Perpignan / Carcassonne, but it has worked there hasn't it.

Mo had a vision and passion for the game that very few of us can ever match, and as I said earlier he is the ONE administrator that the Aussies respected and listened to.

Who was it that thought of the World Club Championship?

Who took the test matches to Old Trafford and Wembley?

What I think happened was a deadline to get the Superleague money from Sky and it wasn't thought out as well as it maybe could have been.

Mo is a very interesting character to talk to if you ever get the chance, and he does not shirk any questions.
But you may not always like his answers. He loves the game of Rugby League.

I know it's a little off topic, but it is slightly related.

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Just a question in the so called tax issues.

Is it an issue with the Inland Revenue and not Super League. If so, and we are found to be guilty does that mean we will simply get a tax bill???

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Quote: citywolf "Just a question in the so called tax issues.

Is it an issue with the Inland Revenue and not Super League. If so, and we are found to be guilty does that mean we will simply get a tax bill???'"


This ia a very much layman's perspective so don't take it as Gospel:

Max spend on the cap: £1.65 million excluding NI, but including other payments, ie; tax. If player A is earning £100k and you can get half of your tax liablity offset via image rights payments it is a simple way of getting more of your gross salary to nett.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Will Wood have played the requisite number of games?
I doubt it.

Jon Clarke was at Wigan in 1998 and spent time at her Majestys pleasure before playing again at Wigan and then moving to London Broncos.
he has not completed 10 years at Warrington.

I also doubt that Briers is only on £50K, he turned down a three year contract at Barrow.'"
Where do you get this requisite number of games from. icon_confused.gif: please explain.

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Quote: manoa thompsons knees "Where do you get this requisite number of games from.
It used to be 300 games, but it is very rare for that to be the case anymore.

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