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Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "so you think the club should have announced in the press at the start of the year, "these players are doggo, and we're spending this year to find out who's willing to be less doggo" that would have gone down reyt with them.'"


That’s not what I said, and is not accurate. The players are not “doggo”, but if you have can justify finishing 11th because of the poor state that the club was in, then the leadership should own that failure.

The message, in my opinion (if the club was in such a poor state) would be that the club requires immediate intervention in order to address some of the failures that have seen the club miss out on winning the big one despite the resources expended, this could take time in order to identify the issues and to remedy them, although we are confident that we have found the right people to lead that rebuild. The actual announcement from memory saw Middleton say that he thought Powell was the right man to improve players at the club.

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Quote: Barbed Wire "That’s not what I said, and is not accurate. The players are not “doggo”, but if you have can justify finishing 11th because of the poor state that the club was in, then the leadership should own that failure.

The message, in my opinion (if the club was in such a poor state) would be that the club requires immediate intervention in order to address some of the failures that have seen the club miss out on winning the big one despite the resources expended, this could take time in order to identify the issues and to remedy them, although we are confident that we have found the right people to lead that rebuild. The actual announcement from memory saw Middleton say that he thought Powell was the right man to improve players at the club.'"



you're still calling the players , potato potato tomato tomato.

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Quote: just_browny "What on earth am I reading on a Warrington forum?'"


Well, i would prefer it to be with us but there is no chance of that before he retires. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Barbed Wire "If you’re going to say something like that (if it is true) then you need to be able to back it up, otherwise it’s misplaced arrogance. It’s antagonist without having a point to make. I’m not asking for kid gloves, but if you’re going to say something stupid, back it up.

On the point of reasonable alternatives, at the time of appointing Powell the coaches either available or in the final year of their contract included

Firstly, you need to settle yourself down and debate the point rather than get personal. Without wishing to accuse you of likewise saying something stupid, my post was based on an earlier post in the thread and my post was partly a progression on this

...and other information I've heard from some friends.

The club may have approached these coaches you mentioned, but may have been unsuccessful. A question: have any successful NRL coaches switched to Superleague. I can't think of any - they leave to join another NRL club. That leaves Wayne who probably wouldn't have come. Would you really want Mcdermot? And the other assistant coaches are big gambles.

Just debate the point and let people decide for themselves if someone is stupid or arrogant etc.

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WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE LIKE THIS??

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Quote: Uncle Rico "WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE LIKE THIS??'"


Totally agree.

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Quote: Gazwire "Firstly, you need to settle yourself down and debate the point rather than get personal. Without wishing to accuse you of likewise saying something stupid, my post was based on an earlier post in the thread and my post was partly a progression on this

Settle down there trigger happy, I was referring to the stupid statement of Powell, if he indeed did say it, and that it was stupid as he couldn’t back it up with evidence that he could or has done it himself.

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Quote: ratticusfinch "Id rather Saints do 4 than Wigan win. Salford looking the most dangerous at the minute though.'"


As ever, I'd support an Alien Invasion XIII or even the England RU team* if they were up against Wigan.

*Carling, Guscott, Underwoods vintage

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Quote: Barbed Wire "Settle down there trigger happy, I was referring to the stupid statement of Powell, if he indeed did say it, and that it was stupid as he couldn’t back it up with evidence that he could or has done it himself.'"


So the following was directed at Powell and not me??

Quote: Barbed Wire "If you’re going to say something like that (if it is true) then you need to be able to back it up, otherwise it’s misplaced arrogance. It’s antagonist without having a point to make. I’m not asking for kid gloves, but if you’re going to say something stupid, back it up.
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Let's not make the hole bigger.

Let's move back on topic, all forgotten as far as I'm concerned now - it's a passionate topic.

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Serious question chaps. Given Powell's strange set of interviews do you still think Cooper, king and Charnley were really bad eggs. I know Powell always gives strange interviews but even for him his recent ones have been slapdash. Reading between his very tainted lines it sounds to me he is telling Moran 'please don't sack me, it will come good next year' He has put himself on a high spandau by keeping claiming that he is building something 'big' he had better deliver for his own sake. How long does he get next season. Clean slate and all that with his team.

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Quote: just_browny "As ever, I'd support an Alien Invasion XIII or even the England RU team* if they were up against Wigan.

*Carling, Guscott, Underwoods vintage'"


I think we were once linked with Carling, rumoured to be for a £400000 transfer fee. We'd have probably ended up with a 4 pack given our transfer negotiations.

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Quote: Pie_Eyter "Serious question chaps. Given Powell's strange set of interviews do you still think Cooper, king and Charnley were really bad eggs. I know Powell always gives strange interviews but even for him his recent ones have been slapdash. Reading between his very tainted lines it sounds to me he is telling Moran 'please don't sack me, it will come good next year' He has put himself on a high spandau by keeping claiming that he is building something 'big' he had better deliver for his own sake. How long does he get next season. Clean slate and all that with his team.'"


If you suffer from insomnia, try reading the "Powell Out" thread, all 78 pages, and still growing.

Happy reading.

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Quote: Gazwire "So the following was directed at Powell and not me??

Let's not make the hole bigger.

Let's move back on topic, all forgotten as far as I'm concerned now - it's a passionate topic.'"


Read it following on from the post that you replied to, you’ll quite clearly make out that it is in regard to Powell’s alleged comment to Cooper, hence the “if true” statement as it’s all speculation at this stage. Unless you have any experience of winning super league titles, or having antagonistic conversations with former Warrington props about how they haven’t won a super league title, it can’t possibly be aimed at you.

Still, if you’d prefer to turn this into another woe is me event, lead on.

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