I’m really disappointed I expected Redvee to have gone into full meltdown and that Thaler is from Warrington and him an Hicks are best mate and colluded to make that win. Anyway what’s the chance any Saints players not making the disciplinary panel next week either.

Theres still some choice boiling on there, apparently we've set the tone for how teams cheat to beat them, and no player is legitimately injured against them.

Considering how hard they run and how much intensity defences have to use to stop the likes of walmsley, its pretty likely someone will pick up a knock or two.

Hope Jack Welsby is ok after going down with a head knock when Cas were attacking their line.

They must be pleased with that attacking effort though. One break in the second half, which was fatbum Walmsley taking a quick tap 10m out.

I have been surprised that they don’t mention Fages being missing. The fan base seem happy that Dodd is a ready made replacement, I’m far from convinced. Their habit of blaming every defeat on the ref suggests a lack of awareness.

Agreed, I remember when they thought that Richardson was the reincarnation of Sean Long, and the kid could do no wrong.

I'll be interested to see what ban Makinson gets - late hit and clear shoulder charge - somehow I reckon it'll be red card sufficient though....


At least Powell has rid himself of a Saints hoodoo before he arrives !

Tbh the Cas gameplan was right out of the Steve Price Saints playbook - very concentrated defence and don't give the halfbacks any thinking time. Result - Saints reduced to all-or-nothing wide passes, most of which either wobble into touch or aren't crisp enough to get the winger in.

like bentley, fages has had the temerity to look elsewhere for a contract, so he's on the list with them now, much like coote is.

A lot of them don't rate fages at all. Surprises me because he always looks decent against us.

No they don't rate him....NOW! Were he to cancel his move to Hudds and stay put he'd suddenly be WORLD CLASS again.

That's just not true at all. Fages has been marmite to the Saints fans ever since he joined. A lot like his tenacity and his defending but others expect more from a half back. Lewis Dodd clearly has a better kicking game, passing game and running game than Fages. Whether that makes him a world class player in the end remains to be seen, but giving youngsters with potential their chance is the right thing to do. It may work, it may not. Again Saints fans are split on that, but most are in favour of trying it. With Welsby and Dodd being given starting shirts next season most sensible Saints fans would expect us to drop away a bit, but hope we'll still be in contention.

As for the game itself the referees performance was shambolic, as was Saints. We didn't do enough to win the game but Thaler dictated a lot of the play for both sides with big swings caused by his ego. Cas' try at the end of the first half came off the back of them doing nothing and getting two penalties and three set restarts, most of which weren't the correct decisions. He reversed the succession of dodgy and pedantic decisions at random throughout the game and neither side really started playing, the game never got into a proper rhythm. It was a bizarre game, but I think an awful lot of the games Thaler and Hicks do are like that. When you sit there discussing what the three set restarts you've just got were for you've got an idea they're not great calls and it was happening all night. He gave about 200 penalties and still managed to miss the only two blatant ball steals there were in the game by Lomax and Bentley and two of the three worst tackles of the night by Watts and McShane. Contrast that with last nights game between Hull KR and Wigan. A proper referee and the game looked clean and quick and there was some brilliant rugby played.

Cas were rightly giddy after winning, but if Coote dummies and strolls over the line and we win, Powell would have turned purple again and vented at the ref like Woolf presumably did.

Aren't you forgetting his impeccable past record....... ooooops I forgot his ball fondling antics and his reduced ban.

Still Saddened reverting to type ....... blow me an ungracious Saint in defeat, now that's unusual......not. Noticed not one word of anything positive about Cas from Woolf ..... class

According to redvee the RFL, yes the actual RFL, are designing the rules in order to stop Saints winning. I'd like to see a Venn Diagram of Qanon followers, anti-vaxx maniacs, climate change deniers, flat-earthers and Saints fans.....there would be some serious overlapping. They've got problems over there, they really have.

Oh no ..... does that mean they are going to ban forward passes and stop Roby messing about a the PTB and prevent Saints continually being offside when defending their own line. That a disgrace Ratt .... we should right a letter