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| Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "Duckie is a parody account, isn't he??... Surely??
I really, really hope that when he posts absolute nonsense like his John Kear suggestion, that he is sat on his laptop p!$sing himself laughing and just doing it for the buzz of knowing that everyone else is shaking their heads at the stuff he posts on here?
Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure he might actually be serious.'"
He’s laughing now.
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| Thing is. You might not approve of my opinion of a possible future coach, but whilst you don’t, my opinion is sure, while most of you have no idea who to want.
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| Quote: rubber duckie "Thing is. You might not approve of my opinion of a possible future coach, but whilst you don’t, my opinion is sure, while most of you have no idea who to want.'"
Just because your opinion is sure, doesn't mean it isn't b011ocks...
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| Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "Just because your opinion is sure, doesn't mean it isn't b011ocks...'"
Spat my drink out when I read that
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| Quote: rubber duckie "Thing is. You might not approve of my opinion of a possible future coach, but whilst you don’t, my opinion is sure, while most of you have no idea who to want.'"
Same happened in TS last season. Everyone wanted him out, no-one knew who they wanted to replace him.
The reason they reject your suggestion of Kear is because he's been around for a long time so you know what you're getting. It would be the same if someone suggested Noble. I think people really want to take a shot on the unknown and hope we hit the jackpot by unearthing a gem like Wigan did with Maguire.
It's also why people are moving on to Riley Dean now rather than Patton. Most of the people on here calling for him to get starts in the first team won't have seen him play or won't have seen much of him but he still offers the hope of the unknown, he could be the next Harris/Sculthorpe. Patton has played too much for anyone to still have that hope.
For what its worth I think Kear is underrated as a coach, he's like Graham Taylor was in football. It wasn't just his Cup wins with Sheffield and Hull....he was fantastic at Wakefield, pulled off the greatest escape from relegation in history and then made them a playoff team with no money and loads of problems off the field.
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| If I were to be asked at this point I would go for Watson. Has achieved significant progress with a team that has repeatedly lost its playmakers.
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "Same happened in TS last season. Everyone wanted him out, no-one knew who they wanted to replace him.
The reason they reject your suggestion of Kear is because he's been around for a long time so you know what you're getting. It would be the same if someone suggested Noble. I think people really want to take a shot on the unknown and hope we hit the jackpot by unearthing a gem like Wigan did with Maguire.
It's also why people are moving on to Riley Dean now rather than Patton. Most of the people on here calling for him to get starts in the first team won't have seen him play or won't have seen much of him but he still offers the hope of the unknown, he could be the next Harris/Sculthorpe. Patton has played too much for anyone to still have that hope.
For what its worth I think Kear is underrated as a coach, he's like Graham Taylor was in football. It wasn't just his Cup wins with Sheffield and Hull....he was fantastic at Wakefield, pulled off the greatest escape from relegation in history and then made them a playoff team with no money and loads of problems off the field.'"
The old Sally is back.
Great post. People only see what they want to see. Kear has done more for more teams that anyone I can think of.
As well as Sheffield and Hull, pretty sure he was behind the scenes at Wigan for one of their CC wins too.
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| Nobody doubts Kear was a good coach, but he hasn't had a job of note for about a decade... It's the rugby equivalent of getting Alan Curbishley into do a job because he was quite handy back in the day.
I see Sally mention Noble. To be fair, if we were barmy enough to go the Kear route, then I'd actually take Noble before him, but Christ, surely it wouldn't come to that - It would just cap us off as the laughing stock of the league.
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| Kear or Noble might work in a mentoring/football director capacity if we went for a young, inexperienced coach in the way that Sheens did with Watson, but that's all.
Sadly, I think when we do come to appoint a new coach it will be all aboard the down under gravy train to interview an other bunch of assistant coaches, or failed NRL wannabes who see SL as a way of getting some easy plus points back on the CV.
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| If the storm win today, id throw as much money as possible at bellamy
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| If Price and Fitzpatrick can recognise we need 2 props, they can keep their jobs....for a bit.
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| Quote: morrisseyisawire "
Sadly, I think when we do come to appoint a new coach it will be all aboard the down under gravy train to interview an other bunch of assistant coaches, or failed NRL wannabes who see SL as a way of getting some easy plus points back on the CV.'"
That's always going to happen because of the difference in quality and grade of the 2 competitions.
You can compare it to the difference between the English and Scottish football leagues.. Celtic and Rangers regularly have to sign players and managers who are simply using them as a rung on the ladder to get them to a better league - For example, everyone knows that Steven Gerrard is using his Rangers job as an apprenticeship for when Klopp leaves Liverpool. Similarly, Brendan Rodgers gets sacked at Liverpool, rebuilds at Celtic and then jumps ship at the first opportunity to get back into the PL.
The Aussie route is always going to be a gamble, but then so is the appointment of any new coach. It's probably where having a half decent chief executive, director of football, or whatever Karl Fitzpatrick is supposed to be, comes in handy.
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| Quote: rubber duckie "If Price and Fitzpatrick can recognise we need 2 props, they can keep their jobs....for a bit.'"
Surely were all aware that anyone we tried to sign who was any good, didn't sign a contract and wear the P&B., especially in the prop department.
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| Tbf decent props are like young decent halfbacks, rare on the market.
Its been a complaint at Wigan for a while now, saints have had to bring Graham back.
Leeds have struggled to replace peacock and have held onto cuthbertson past his best.
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| Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "Tbf decent props are like young decent halfbacks, rare on the market.
Its been a complaint at Wigan for a while now, saints have had to bring Graham back.
Leeds have struggled to replace peacock and have held onto cuthbertson past his best.'"
I think if we gave Anderson a squad number he would still do a better job than a couple on our current roster. Latu and Sita aren't worth the wage, Rob butler has a lot of potential as does Ellis Robson. Philbin is a good player to have for impact but on wet ground imthatbimoact reduces somewhat. We are still light one prop and should be looking for an established superleague prop IMO. Like you say though there aren't loads of options are there.
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