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| Quote: Saddened! "Good examples, there were shoulder charges as well. I'm more on about the general policing of the ruck and offisides rather than violent play, it was all just ignored all game in the hope of having an open game.'" Surely the leniency with the ruck and offsides were the same for both teams? Or are you getting at Saints being squeaky clean and Wire being constantly offside and messing at the ruck?
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| Quote: Saddened! "Good examples, there were shoulder charges as well. I'm more on about the general policing of the ruck and offisides rather than violent play, it was all just ignored all game in the hope of having an open game.'"
Who got awarded the most penalties?
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| Quote: Saddened! "I'm not crying, I've said all along you deserved your win. Have some class like others on here. Even the Duck hasn't hit me with a 'told you so' yet.
If I singled anyone out I'd still be posting until our next trophy in October.
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| Saints fans of an age are still arguing about a Brian Bevan 'no' try FFS. That sort of bitterness will lead you to an early grave. In the ebb and flow of sport you get some and you miss some...thats life. Move on.
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| Quote: Moe syslak "Who got awarded the most penalties?'"
Saints 4 to our 2
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| Quote: Superblue "Indeed, Hicks was clear in his own mind that it wasn’t a try and gave the decision.
So why would he want to send it upstairs?
By the same argument Hicks was clear in his own mind that Philbin, BMM, Fages, and Clark had scored tries so awarded them.
In both cases Hicks was clear in his own mind and therefore had no need to go to video.
When he was unclear in his mind he went to video'"
This 100% it seems to me that people only have a go when they don't agree with the outcome of a decision. People moan when they go to the screen too often and then when the ref is in a great position to make still moan. The ref took some guts after what he has been through recently to make that call as it was easier to go to the screen. The result has gone we either have to back the refs or change the whole set up of the video ref!
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| Quote: Saddened! "Slight correction here. Absolutely nothing wrong with a wall of obstruction provided those players get there before the attackers. As long as they don't deliberately move to block the run of the attacker it's fine. If they get there first and just stand there it's good defending. As it is when defenders run slowly towards the catcher, as long as they don't look where the attackers are and block them it's fine. Obviously, normal rules about obstruction then kick in when the player catches the ball, if he uses the shield to dodge the chasers or runs into them stopping a chaser tackling him then it would be a penalty.'"
After the kick has been made, players are deliberately moving to create an obstruction.... any move to impede/obstruct the path of a player is blatantly obstruction... it has to be.
You sometimes see the odd player doing it... but rehed moves with 3 players? I've not seen it done like that before.... cheating in my book.
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| Defenders have a legitimate right to challenge for the ball and get bodies back but it'sndefinitely got a bit cloudy. What should really happen is your attacking kicker spots the rehed defensive move and kicks shorter to attack the space that they aren't defending in numbers.
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| Quote: CW8 "Defenders have a legitimate right to challenge for the ball and get bodies back but it'sndefinitely got a bit cloudy. What should really happen is your attacking kicker spots the rehed defensive move and kicks shorter to attack the space that they aren't defending in numbers.'"
Yes, defenders have a right to challenge... but these players arent challenging.. they arent even jumping for the ball... They are creating an obstruction that shields the person receiving the ball.
It's impossible for an attacking kicker, to spot 3 players forming a wall of obstruction, AFTER the ball has been kicked?
I dont know why its bothered me so much really, as we won the game easy enough. It just reeks of pre-rehed obstruction.... Just shows they were playing a bit scared of us really i suppose... maybe if they had worried more about their own game, they wouldn't have been played off the park.
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| Quote: Saddened! "I posted a congratulations post on here and have been enjoying the sunshine since. I should take it as a compliment that you're complaining that I've not posted since Saturday I guess
I'm not surprised that you've been too cowardly to post a reply to my post on another thread on this board.
You claimed we had deficiencies, were arrogant and embarrassing. Then you ask for how to get hold of Hicks so that can send a nicely worded death threat to him. Utterly classless and embarrassing to your club, players, and fellow supporters in defeat.
You cannot even have the decency to even apologise for your actions, nor congratulate Wire on their victory within the post above.
Have you been banned from Redvee, as it's very strange you've suddenly turned up on here wanting to be bezzies with us all of a sudden.
Your way lower than AS108 in my opinion, just take your whining over Saturday's result elsewhere.
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| Quote: MorePlaymakersNeeded "I'm not surprised that you've been too cowardly to post a reply to my post on another thread on this board.'"
Where is it? I've not seen it?
Quote: MorePlaymakersNeeded "You claimed we had deficiencies, were arrogant and embarrassing.'"
Please show me where I've been arrogant? Please. I'm anything but that. I get ripped to pieces by the Saints fans because I don't go round claiming we're amazing and am realistic about our chances. The only thing I posted is that we should win. And we should have done, we were clear favourites and have beaten you 3 times this season. You were brilliant and prevented that happening, but Saints should be capable of winning that game. But they weren't, such is sport. Nothing arrogant there though, most of your own fans were less confident of a Wire win than I was.
Quote: MorePlaymakersNeeded "Then you ask for how to get hold of Hicks so that can send a nicely worded death threat to him. Utterly classless and embarrassing to your club, players, and fellow supporters in defeat.
You cannot even have the decency to even apologise for your actions, nor congratulate Wire on their victory within the post above.'"
I've got nothing to apologise for, other than maybe posting an edgy joke on Twitter. I wasn't sending a death threat to anyone, you're just not intelligent enough to get the reference. Or you've not seen the new story on him meeting your fellow Warrington fan who actually sent him a death threat?
You say I've not congratulated Wire on their victory? I posted a thread on here doing just that? I've said repeatedly you were brilliant? This was a thread about the referees, started by a Wire fan (Or someone claiming to be one).
Quote: MorePlaymakersNeeded "Have you been banned from Redvee, as it's very strange you've suddenly turned up on here wanting to be bezzies with us all of a sudden. Your way lower than AS108 in my opinion, just take your whining over Saturday's result elsewhere.'"
Make your mind up You're calling me out for not replying, then calling me out for posting on here. I've not been banned from Redvee, I've not even been told off by Twitter, but the woman who threatened to poison the dogs I don't have has had her account suspended . But for you, if it makes you feel better, apologies for my joke on Twitter. Hand on heart, that's all it was.
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| Hope Warrington put a complaint in to the rfl over hicks we lost the pen count 4-2 with our 2 pens coming in 1st half ..walmsley shoulder charge lineham disallowed try nowt wrong with it king taking one round the chops blatent penalty and should of been a yellow...and saints are the ones moaning...
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| God roll on tomorrow and we can move on from the micro analysis of that flaming non-try.
With any luck whoever is reffing Saints Friday will have a dark sense of humour, dispatch a couple of them to the sinbin and do a conga down the pitch with the VR to celebrate a Cas win.
That should enable redvee to find something new to wring their hands over.
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| If the roles were reversed and we had that perfectly valid try not given and we went on to lose we would be up in arms calling it a RL conspiracy.
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| Quote: Wires71 "If the roles were reversed and we had that perfectly valid try not given and we went on to lose we would be up in arms calling it a RL conspiracy.'"
Thing is it weren't a try and we did have one chalked off for sumert Cunningham made an art of...
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