We’ve been garbage for a while now. I think anyone’s judgement or analysis is based on a lot more than just yesterday.

Even when winning we’ve been just above average and have been dragged through by the likes of Ratchford, Austin and Clark.

We look lost for ideas at the moment and lack any direction. Our discipline and ball handling are shocking and we’re showing no signs of improvement.

On the whole we’ve made no progress from last season and over the last month or so we’re going backwards at a rapid rate. As a group we look like we’re playing with an attitude and a bad one at that.

We can turn it round, winning Saturday will go a long way to putting a few things right, but if not, there’s a few very worrying signs for me.

To a degree but you think that we can just go and rip up contracts and make players come here.


Weve not been an attractive prospect to new big signings since we won a few cups but we did not push on or our recruitment did not take u s to the next level.

Im also not convinced that price is in 100 control of signings too

Our recruitment post Tony Smith has been as bad as it was when he was in charge. Smith got a lot of stick for his recruitment during the latter stages of his tenure and rightly so, but the fact our recruitment is still poor indicates to me that the issues recruitment wise run deeper within the club than just the Head Coach.

Not ripping up contracts but why sign players lie Tasi when we've previously signed Johnson to then loan him out? I know who I'd rather have.

You look at Bullock at Wigan - why wasn't we in for him over Tasi?

Price probably isn't but Fitzpatrick has a lot to answer for as well IMO. He may talk a good game but not much else.

Agreed. The problems lie deeper than Price and changes need to happen at the top. The acceptance of medicority at the club has been unacceptable. No trophy won in almost a decade, lots of cash wasted, recreuitment disastorous, promotion from the academy non exsistant. Compare that to how Saints are operating - it's polar opposite.

We may have been in for bullock. But he probably thought there's a better chance of winning somthing with Wigan than with us.

We can only sign people that are available and willing to come. Look how Bmm has worked out for us he clearly stated he wanted to stay at Salford and his effort and performances have shown that too.

anyone going the fans forum on thursday night? That could be tasty

Price was a ridiculous appointment in the first place, he was a massive failure in the NRL and his style of rugby is absolutely awful to watch. His recruitment has been appalling as well. He fooled you all into thinking he was a good coach and that dross like Jason Clark were good signings. Sack him and you might get somewhere, hopefully you don’t.

They only pick Wire fans who won’t ask difficult questions so I doubt that very much.

I get the depression on here, Warrington clearly aren't doing as well as they could be as a club given the finances that are being pumped in over the years.

BUT lets not forget that Hull are absolutely terrible. The rest, including Wigan aren't even worth talking about, so you're likely to have two finals against Saints. You can clearly win one off games against us if you get things right on the day. Despite your issues, winning the double this season is still perfectly possible.

Hamstring strain by all accounts....

How do you know?

If I hear again that players had their mind elsewhere, were holding back or that were subbed with one eye on next weekend I'll throw a Verucca Salt style tantrum.

If the game was marked as one we could afford to lose (we can't afford to lose any if we want to get 2nd place) then the players and staff want flogging and I'd.like first crack please.

And if there was evidence in the week that players weren't fully focussed then DROP THEM and bring in Burrell, Livett, Johnson etc.

Don't insult the fans, Cas and the competition by writing it off as collateral damage when some of us believe that winning in P&B [ialways matters[/i.

We.ll do well get past hull..it'll be tight..but saints at Wembley we've got no chance..gf will be saints Wigan..we r bound to meet Wigan in play offs..and they owe us one...

I don't think we can. You've beat us twice already, one very convincingly and the other you were missing Roby and playing in second gear and still beat us.