Why doesn't Mamo get a look in? Is he injured? Would you not be better with him at 1 and Ratchford in the halves?

Mamo injured at present but would be nice to see him at FB next week and Ratchford out of the side to try and learn a very valuable lesson. Even if Lineham gets banned Ratchford should not be in our next 19 if Price has any consistency because he made MANY costly errors tonight and all at crucial moments. The threat of the drop should apply to every player.

Come up against a side that can easily make 70/80 yards on a set of six ,with ease , & any team will be out played. I was more concerned that our creativity disappeared after the hour mark & there didn't seem to be a viable game plan apart from panic rugby. Cooper's sin binning seemed pedantic considering the player seemed to fall into a high tackle situation.
Saints are head & shoulders above the other 11 teams at present & should easily do well this season.

If Livett isn't injured then surely he should be in the 17 at least, i rate him highly.

Livett is as average as they come, he just throws in a decent performance from time to time.

Ill say it again, and I apologise for it- we lost in the forwards because our defensive line stood back. Watch the game back and look at saints’ defensive line throughout the game. They swarmed us. Man on man, we are at least as good as them. Our defensive line/pressure/speed has lost it.

Calling Ratchford a 'coward' don't make you look tough.

And me?..I think if we wait a while you might upset me sometime soon...I'll make myself a packed lunch and I'll fetch you a couple of biscuits.

You mean when there was a 2 point ball game before Cooper spoilt the game.
Play that game over again without that error and they'd be nothing in it...we were beaten in 7 of those 10 min Cooper was off.
Following his return, Wire just tried risk football and blew everything.
However, linespeed, defence, backing up and playing kicking was superb from Saints.

Bad day for Wire but like last season, wull be switched on for the big games that matter. It'll be different yet again.

For what its worth , from the minute we had the ball Saints were throwing in 3 4 or 5 tacklers in. Controlling the ruck and we had no plan B. That's where we lost in End of Story .
However we are still a good side , we just need to learn from it .

Can see Saints winning the lot this season.Oustanding in every department.

Deja vu.

This time last season exactly the same.

However the wheels fell off in the games that mattered.

So often now there is a stand out team at this point in the season that is nailed on to win the GF, then they don't, case in point:

2018 - Saints
2017 - Cas
2016 - Wire
2014 - Leeds
2012 - Wigan/Wire
2011 - Wigan/Wire

I think this Saints fan got it about right.

Can't provide him with an argument this morning.

The one bright spot was Matt Davis ... very impressive. He hits and works hard. He'll take some shifting. We need a bit of a re-think about our ranking of forwards.