I always understood a Cumberland Throw to be a way of bringing down a [istanding[/i player though, not to trip up a [irunning[/i player. Tripping is clearly dangerous.

It was Tommy Martyn (Snr) go to tackle, usually one handed and very finely judged to avoid being a trip. I think that is why they introduced the requirement to have hold with TWO hands.

Presumably if an offence warrants a 1 match ban it deserved a red card in the match? 2 players down...

In Grand Finals refs tend to try to keep players on the field and leave the disciplinary committee to sort out offences later. In the 2013 final, Ben Westwood punched Blake Green in the face, the ref sensibly just had a quiet word and told Green to stop scriking and man up, which to his credit he did with a man of the match performance, and Westwood was given a one match ban after. The way some of the do gooders go on Westwood should have been sent off.

If Charnley had been binned we could have reason to be agreaved. But he wasn't, I'm. Also under no. Illusion they're even similar but if a refs to make an on the spot decision he could have binned Charnley.

Refs will always be hesitant to send someone off or to the bin in a final. Probably make no difference we can say they may have tired, I think it would have spurred them on further they've a shown a desire to win at any cost and when it comes to digging deep they seem to dig deeper.

Spot on Westwood should of gone but so should those 2...whats the point of banning them all they'll miss is a pointless international game or pre season run about...you can't have 2 sets of rules just because it's a final

charnley should have 2 aswell as Linehams elbow on Manfredi? no?

Should he????I'm sure the rfl would have had them had it been a worthwhile ban......

yeah cos they are consistant .....

No they're two completely different incidents Charnley did not slide in knee first....

Pieman, pieman, pieman... Don't you realise that only other teams are guilty of foul play and that the very same disciplinary whose consistency they've complained about all year is now the yardstick by which even handedness is measured? Get with the program man!

What do you mean look who's heads were split open, stitched and bandaged? That's irrelevant. The disciplinary said it was from fair challenges and that should be an end to it! Elbows? Knees? It simply couldn't have been...

Has anyone got the clips of Tomkins x2, Leuluai x1 and Charnley x1. I’m not sure what the incident regarding Leuluai was.
Still waiting to hear what went on in the tunnel (near me they were shouting Escare had started something, but not sure how reliable they were as didn’t seem to have ever watched a game before [although they may well have been to numerous matches]).

That Escare looks a right niggly git.

he was clapping the wire fans for throwing bottles at them, then wore players started pushing him and navarette run over to defend him