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Quote: rubber duckie "This is not the case at all.
I've already posted about Warrington paying latge contract fees for young talent. Wire arnt after anyone's cast offs. TS made some bizarre signings when he had unquestioned control over ins and outs, but that era has gone. The board has a grip.'"


Hughes was an exact example of this. Tony has only been gone 3 months.

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Quote: ninearches "Be interesting to see if Rhys Evans & Brad Dwyer can regain their early promise under a different coach.'"


i think that dwyer will be a great fit for us at the rhinos as their is a great player in there that was stifled whilst at warrington under tony smith

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Quote: Wires71 "Hughes was an exact example of this. Tony has only been gone 3 months.'"

As I recall he was on loan at Huddersfield and his contract was to expire. Huddersfield offered him a deal and he chose Warrington.

You could argue he wasn't in Wanes plans but he was in Huddersfield and he certainly has furthered his career beyond that of a rejected youngster.

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Quote: rubber duckie "As I recall he was on loan at Huddersfield and his contract was to expire. Huddersfield offered him a deal and he chose Warrington.

You could argue he wasn't in Wanes plans but he was in Huddersfield and he certainly has furthered his career beyond that of a rejected youngster.'"


Hughes got into the Wigan first team in 2012, and made the English academy and England Knights. But he failed to develop to Wigan's exacting standards having been loaned to Leigh, Workington and finally ended up at Huddersfield. Wigan had made their decision on him by 2014.

Being good enough for Huddersfield to offer him a contract, but Wigan having no further interest sort of makes my point for me.

If he was to leave Wire he would be going to Widnes, Hull KR or the Championship.

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Quote: Wires71 "Hughes got into the Wigan first team in 2012, and made the English academy and England Knights. But he failed to develop to Wigan's exacting standards having been loaned to Leigh, Workington and finally ended up at Huddersfield. Wigan had made their decision on him by 2014.

Being good enough for Huddersfield to offer him a contract, but Wigan having no further interest sort of makes my point for me.

If he was to leave Wire he would be going to Widnes, Hull KR or the Championship.'"
with players like Sargenson and then Gelling plus World class backrowers, it's tough to nail a spot...him going out on loan didn't automatically mean Hughes was to be ousted...it's a means to keep him fit at a top level for a possible return.
It may have even been Hughes himself that asked about a loan move, I don't know.

Wigan had to make a call on him as the contract was about to expire...with eyes on Tompkins and Bateman, he very likely became surplus and something has to give.

Hughes was great at Huddersfield and he was great here too, last season many players were poor, I don't think Hughes was the poorest by some distance last season.

I still don't think he is a Wigan reject junior to back up the comment you said earlier about us only signing flops.

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Let's agree to disagree on Hughes. I don't think he was "great" in 2016. Solid defender maybe but was always prone to losing the ball or failing the play the ball correctly. As for 2017 he was abysmal and was one of the worst players but he was undroppable.

And I never said "we only sign flops". I actually wrote

"With the occasional gem, we will always be in a position of weakness when we rely on signing young players that are rejected by their own club for not being good enough"

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Quote: Wires71 "Let's agree to disagree on Hughes. I don't think he was "great" in 2016. Solid defender maybe but was always prone to losing the ball or failing the play the ball correctly. As for 2017 he was abysmal and was one of the worst players but he was undroppable.

And I never said "we only sign flops". I actually wrote

"With the occasional gem, we will always be in a position of weakness when we rely on signing young players that are rejected by their own club for not being good enough"'"

I know you didn't. I didn't quote you, I just paraphrased it shorter to how I understood it.
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