I tend to agree that the standard of SL has gone down over the last few years and this year in particularly injuries have hit more clubs than I can remember (of course the goons have been hit harder than anyone else in the history of sport - as if!), but those who finish top for the LLS have deserved the right to be there.
They can only play what's in front of them. If Hull win - fair play to them. They'll deserve it.
Can't complain with the nominees for the MoS, although I can't remember a single match where Chris Hill didn't come out with honours so am disappointed for him.

I've calmed down since last week, and although I've no intention to go, I will watch the match with a resigned view of the outcome.
I will not invest emotional energy on this.
I want us to win, I want a trophy, but on the other hand I have absolutely no expectations.

Both had good games tonight Lineham has certainly been working hard to get sharper and his pace.

I watched him a lot tonight think he made some good decisions he was communicating with the team and think he was sound defensively. If he can maintain this attitude and keep progressing it will be money very well spent..


Was also happy to see how the team celebrated his trys maybe they too have witnessed the hard work he has been Putting in and hopefully Evans can work on his offence with Tom during the off season to come back next season even stronger!!!!

Was very impressed with Toms defence tonight. That WAS SL standard.
A couple of awesome chases back and he actually looked bothered and half fast.
The 2 tries - probably my grannie could have scored them but he was in the right position at the right time.
Well done Tom - nice to say that.

told you

Think your a little hard on how easy his second try was.

Tom reaction was immediate how many times do we see ppl freeze as soon as a ball hits the floor? his kick through was well weighted many a time that would end up going dead and to collect and score the try under the pressure of playing for the lls and infront of the crowd of the club he left is no mean feat.

The Wigan game will be a test now, if he cam maintain that form and attitude. I'm sure Wigan will look to target him a bit more than hull did last night.

I really hope that Tom has turned a corner at the club and will commit to what's required on and off the field to really succeed at Warrington n put himself in contention for am England call up in the future

I think Kevin penny's again played well there are a few minor niggles with him, players are human n mistakes will be made with him it's generally the same ones tho shooting in early to close the play down if it doest pay off were fooked and the occasional knock on tho one wasn't a knock on ball went sideways. Cannot fault the lads effort or commitment bit I would ask the question is he the best we can get on that wing? No would be most people's answer I think the club will be willing if the right player becomes available to ditch penny.

I do wonder if weve been sold the most incredible rope a dope performance ever

Tonyicon_surprised.gifk Tom, we want you to play really bad to start off the season, then were not gonna play you or Kevin, well have rhys and Matty on the wings, And the fans will be disappointed, opposition fans will think me inept and as we get to the finals all the coaches will be gameplanning for exploiting their flaws.

THEN WE BRING YOU BACK IN ANd WE WIN THE FINAL ON THE BACK OF IT,

I'll be the new jack Gibson.

Confidence could be the key . The opportunity of a few games in a settled position for both wingers could do them the world of good. It can't be easy thinking you are only one knock on away from being dropped.

I really hope Tom keeps this up too; I wonder if he, like us, thought his career was over before he got this second chance.

I have to say though, as much as I like Penny he really annoyed me last night by constantly running not just sideways but backwards! There was one moment where he got the ball with an untidy defence in front of him, and he ran sideways straight into a Wigan player

Generally it's better to run forwards, but at the same time a sideways run to the other side of the pitch makes the Hull forwards have
relocate to set up for the play the ball using more energy up.

I watched the game again last night. Lineham's contribution was pretty special. As well as his two tries he chased back to save two tries when it was odds on that Hull would score (Talanoa in first half and the Shaul break). He also took ball up and gained good hard yards.
Penny also had a good 'un. re. running sideways Players who are very quick are allowed to run sideways a bit trying to find a gap. Some on here may have watched Brian Bevan (who had a pretty successful career) he was never adverse to the shuffle sideways.
He'd have given you a very funny look if you told him never to run sideways.

Matty also runs crab like but tends to then run forward making some metres but Kev gets tackled before finding a gap and sometimes ends up further back. Love Penny tho think we need him for pace and he's great under the bombs.

Toby King and Clark ran sideways twice against Wigan and we scored twice off it. That's the idea, suck the defence in with a drop off and catch the defence flat footed. The problem is if no one runs a line for you, well... Like you say, you can lose meters

If you were to ask me who the best winger in the league is i'd say Manfredi.

Ask me who the best finisher is i'd say an in form Lineham. I want him at wire, full of confidence