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| I agree absolutely with 'Anozira', 'Johnkendal' and 'comeonyouWolves'. Nothing as bad as this, but all season Wigan have gone out to rough up the opposition and take it close to the illegal. Very clear in the games against Leeds and you could say it worked. Of course it's a tough game but if you go too far it can take away some of the skill and perhaps it's no surprise that something like this happens eventually. Perhaps a part of the blame should fall on shoulders other than that of the player himself.
I have also wondered for some time why yellow cards are not used more often. If they were such an approach might not seem quite so attractive.
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| Quote: Paul2812 "Saints have all but one of their halfbacks out injured. The one halfback they do have on the field is knocked-out of the game by thuggery in the second minute after the Ape has spent the week talking-up his 'hatred' of Saints and his 'do what it takes' attitude to winning. Coincidence ? I don't think so. The more I think about it the more I think it was a decision by Wane to target Lance Hohaiai (yes I know its spelt incorrectly) and put him out of the game like the did Ratchford last year.
Every team in SL will at some point be aggressive in their approach to certain games, but the Goons got what they deserved on Saturday having got away with it for the past few seasons..... whether it be cannonball tackles, late shoulder charges, high shots, or just punching a man already incapacitated on the ground.
Flower will be held to account for his actions by the RL and cop a grade F ban. I'm guessing Wane won't be for his admission through his own words of the house tactics he employs.
Interesting to read on my SS News App that GMP are speaking to St Helens & the CPS about potentially bringing charges against Flower.'"
+1. I'll be surprised if charges are bought.
I think it is more of the police showing a profile, being in seen as in a position to act as a warning to others in amateur level not to think that it won't be acted upon.
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| Quote: Paul2812 "Saints have all but one of their halfbacks out injured. The one halfback they do have on the field is knocked-out of the game by thuggery in the second minute after the Ape has spent the week talking-up his 'hatred' of Saints and his 'do what it takes' attitude to winning. Coincidence ? I don't think so. The more I think about it the more I think it was a decision by Wane to target Lance Hohaiai (yes I know its spelt incorrectly) and put him out of the game like the did Ratchford last year.
Every team in SL will at some point be aggressive in their approach to certain games, but the Goons got what they deserved on Saturday having got away with it for the past few seasons..... whether it be cannonball tackles, late shoulder charges, high shots, or just punching a man already incapacitated on the ground.
Flower will be held to account for his actions by the RL and cop a grade F ban. I'm guessing Wane won't be for his admission through his own words of the house tactics he employs.
Interesting to read on my SS News App that GMP are speaking to St Helens & the CPS about potentially bringing charges against Flower.'"
what does a grade f carry..is it a long ban..???
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| Quote: sir adrian morley "what does a grade f carry..is it a long ban..???'"
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| Quote: RLIMR "No such thing as bad publicity. Fact of the matter is, the game wouldn't have received a fraction of the exposure if has in the last 24 hours, had the incident not occurred.'"
Where I work there are about 70 staff and three of us are RL fans. Usually there'd be very little talk of RL week-to-week, yet today there was loads. I reckon twenty people must have commented on it to me today.
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| Quote: lefty goldblatt "One of the more annoying things about this incident, is the way the BBC Sports Dept will jump up and down in moral outrage, about our dirty sport.
Let's face it, the only time the Beeb are interested in a RL story, is when it's a negative one
e.g. failed drugs test
violence by supporters
off the field misdemeanors by players
teams going into liquidation.
Had last night's game been a 30-28 classic with an golden point finish, and 4 contenders for try of the season, it would've barely been 4th item on their sports bulletin. However, due to Flower's (and Wigan's all round thuggery), they need to have a laydown in a darkened room. I still remember their cod horror at Morley's tackle in the first minute of that Aussie Test, that they almost forgot we won the game.
Oh, and that shortar5ed wage thief, Michael Owen's been having a pop as well. Do us a favour, midget, and bore one of your horses to death, instead of us.'"
"Nice" to see the Beeb didn't let me down.
48 hours after the event, and it's lead item on the 4 p.m. sports news on Radio 2, and top item on on their internet site. Had we or Wigan or Leeds signed someone like Cameron Smith or Billy Slater, do we think that would afford such lofty publicity? Not a chance. It might have got the last mention, after breaking news of Rooney's latest hair transplant and another inspirational press conference from Andy Murray.
The Beeb really don't like our sport.
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| Surely Wayne has a case to answer for the video in which he is giving a half time pep talk to his players and urging them to knock opponents out ? I've only just seen the video and it's a damning indictment of his tactics....He should be up before the beak as well as his thug.
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| Quote: fez1 "F for Flower
F for F grade charge
Min 8 matches
F for (dirty) fluffer
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| I've had a few
"Oh you like rugby league don't you, did you see the guy that punched the other guy" type conversations today.
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| Daily Mash even did an article
rlhttps://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/sport-headlines/rugby-union-afraid-of-rugby-league-2014101391646rl
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| I'd ban him for a year, the two things I hate about Wigabs tactics are the 4th man in attacking the standing leg, and the very late shots.
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| I wonder how this would have been treated if it had happened at the start of a State of Origin match.
The commentators would have been loving it "ooooh look at that, right on his melon!" and there would have been a 2 minute all in brawl, it would have had 500,000 views on youtube by the end of the day and would go down in legend as one of the all time great biffs and further evidence as to what State against State means.
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| It somehow seems fairly pointless to give him a hefty ban. He (probably) cost his side a GF win, and since any ban will be for next season, allowing Wigan 4 months to plan for his absence, the impact will be minimal.
Ok what he did was disgraceful and cannot be condoned, but I can't see how anybody benefits, or is really penalised, by a ban which will commence next season.
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| Quote: BrianBradyHandOff "Surely Wayne has a case to answer for the video in which he is giving a half time pep talk to his players and urging them to knock opponents out ? I've only just seen the video and it's a damning indictment of his tactics....He should be up before the beak as well as his thug.'"
Agree with this, the whole talk was cringeworthy and no coach should be telling their players to go knock the f*** out of someone!
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