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| Quote: Bobby_Peru "And from what we now have learnt, a couple of fags..'"
I used to have a history of Warrington RLFC video and there was footage of the players on a train going to an away match in the 30's or 40's. One of the players was smoking and I'm sure the presenter alluded to it being a joint he was puffing away at. |
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| Quote: latchfordbob "I used to have a history of Warrington RLFC video and there was footage of the players on a train going to an away match in the 30's or 40's. One of the players was smoking and I'm sure the presenter alluded to it being a joint he was puffing away at.'"
He must have been from Orford  |
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| Quote: tkearney99 "Just after a bit of help guys, a friend of a friend is writing Andy Gregory's new book and it is pretty much all done all she needs is a few quotes from fans who watched him.'"
Think you may get a few more positive responses on the Salford forum. |
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I wonder what Woods is doing now.
Real class.
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He was still playing up until about a decade ago.
Woods rarely club trained and was somewhat allowed not too.
He used to walk about 10 miles a day with his dog.
That was his training and why he played so long and was injury free.
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "The year after Andy Gregory left we added John Woods and Des Drummond and we finished 6th then 11th. Then the next two years (after Woods had left) we were 8th and 9th.
Surely quite disappointing finishes considering we had a side that was ready to dominate rugby league in Wigan's place, if only Andy Gregory stayed....?'"
That 88-89 side that finished 11th I would imagine had Steve Roach, Phil Blake, Les Davidson, and Les Boyd, but they didnt play the entire season due to NRL commitments, and Boyd was called back from retirement by Peter Higham (iirc).
Davidson and Blake were not allowed to play in the Maine Road Semi, so it was hardly a settled side.
At Maine road woods had to move to scrum half while a young inexperienced Rocky turner played stand off which made woods display all the better....
Week in week out For about ten years the pies 6& 7 was Gregory and Edwards and no on else..........that helps.....
why such a star studded side finished so low down the table I have no idea.......well if you ever saw Steve Roach play league games then the answer lies there somewhere.......
In fact we did well to get to wembley in 1990 with Woods Holden Boyd Roach Davidson and Blake leaving ....it gives me hope for this year..........  |
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We didn't deserve to go in 1990.
In 1989 we did, all we needed was to draw saints or Widnes in the semi.
Alas history shows our fait.
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| Quote: rubber duckie "Sally our league positions on paper look disappointing, but we had good runs in all the cups so we racked up quite a few wins.
If Andy Gregory had have not just use Wire as a plinth, he would have been playing behind the best pack I ever saw in RL ever.
So close it pains me still.'"
Our league positions on paper look disappointing because they were disappointing, over that period we lost about half our league games. A lot of them were to lower table sides as well.
If we really had this great team, then why did we lose so often in the league?
As for the best pack you ever saw in RL ever, surely as Andy Gregory left then John Woods played behind this pack.
Woods behind the best pack ever with Des Drummond and Brian Johnson in the outside backs all led by the GB captain.....come on surely there should have been some top 3 finishes?? Were they resting players to try and win the end of season Premiership from 8th or something? |
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Its all a matter of opinion.
In my opinion I've never seen a better pack around that 2 year period. 88 and 89.
Boyd Tamati Jackson Davidson M Gregory Humphries Rathbone Roach in the cup games...he didn't wanna know in the league hence the poor league form??
I know in my heart of hearts that the draw of Wigan in 89 semi and the unavailability of Davidson and Blake cost us history.
I'm convinced Warrington would have beat Wigan in the CC final of 89 with them.
I truly believe Wigan wouldn't had become so dominant. I believe Warrington would had been equals with the monies of an 89 final.
If I could wish a pack, I would wish for that back.
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If one good thing comes from this thread, it's reminded me why I hate the pies so much. Unfortunately I now can't get that Lydon drop goal out of my head!
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If its any consolation bobby.
I don't consider the drop goal that caused it.
But the draw of the semi final in 1989.
Saints and Widnes were 2 average teams that made the semi together.
Wire only had to draw either one of them.
That's were our dream took the wrong course.
Wire made a real dig v Wigan but to us a Wire team without Davidson and Blake was akin to Wigan being without being without Shelford and Hanley.
If something come of it, Higham vowed never to sign short term Aussies again and a visit to Wembley in 1990 when on form since the departure of Greg Mackey we didn't deserve.
Saints got the wrong semi final draw that year of 1990!
A couple of years later we started signing unknown Welsh players instead and shrewd purchasing of youth from Oldham.
It gave us a false dawn in 1994/1995 with Davis but in truth we were on a very long slippery slope of demise.
That semi final draw in 1989 cost us big time!!!!
That's what I hate the most and always think 'WHAT IF?'
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Quote: rubber duckie "Its all a matter of opinion.
In my opinion I've never seen a better pack around that 2 year period. 88 and 89.
Boyd Tamati Jackson Davidson M Gregory Humphries Rathbone Roach in the cup games...he didn't wanna know in the league hence the poor league form??
I know in my heart of hearts that the draw of Wigan in 89 semi and the unavailability of Davidson and Blake cost us history.
I'm convinced Warrington would have beat Wigan in the CC final of 89 with them.
I truly believe Wigan wouldn't had become so dominant. I believe Warrington would had been equals with the monies of an 89 final.'"
Warrington were not even close to Wigan at this time. Look at our 1988/89 season. 11th in the league. Started the season with three straight losses. Lost 7 out of 8 between December and January. Lost 6 out of 8 from March to finish the season. Where in any universe was this a team close to being challengers?
As for our great cup runs:
Lancashire Cup: beat Runcorn and Carlisle, knocked out by Salford
John Player Special Trophy: beat Oldham and Bramley, knocked out by Widnes
Challenge Cup: beat Halifax, Keighley and Hull KR, knocked out by Wigan
So the only top division teams we beat in the cup were Halifax and Oldham. So Roach and this great pack, who saved their best for the cup, proved themselves against lower division teams in front of crowds of 3000 or so.
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But hey maybe if only we'd got the Wembley money in 1989 that team could have gone on to dominate rugby ahead of a Wigan side that had Hanley, Edwards, Gregory, Bell, Hampson, Gill, Lydon, the Iros.....
The side I get nostalgic about is the great team of Daryl Van de Velde that reached back to back Challenge Cup semi finals in 2000 and 2001 with a great pack that included Gee, Farrar, Nikau, McCurrie, Knott and Nikau. If only we had got past Bradford in one of those semis we would have won either of those finals....in 2000 we had smashed Leeds a few weeks before Murrayfield and in 2001 we smashed Saints just before Twickenham.
As for John Woods and Paul Bishop or Rocky Turner I raise you Allan Langer and Lee Briers.
And DVDVs side had guys like Kohe-Love, Hunte and Smyth that were prolific try scorers so more than a match for your Cullen, Darbyshire and Forster era.
Who knows if only we'd won one of those cup semis DVDVs side could have gone on to dominate in place of Bradford or Saints. |
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Quote: rubber duckie "Its all a matter of opinion.
In my opinion I've never seen a better pack around that 2 year period. 88 and 89.
Boyd Tamati Jackson Davidson M Gregory Humphries Rathbone Roach in the cup games...he didn't wanna know in the league hence the poor league form??
I know in my heart of hearts that the draw of Wigan in 89 semi and the unavailability of Davidson and Blake cost us history.
I'm convinced Warrington would have beat Wigan in the CC final of 89 with them.
I truly believe Wigan wouldn't had become so dominant. I believe Warrington would had been equals with the monies of an 89 final.'"
Warrington were not even close to Wigan at this time. Look at our 1988/89 season. 11th in the league. Started the season with three straight losses. Lost 7 out of 8 between December and January. Lost 6 out of 8 from March to finish the season. Where in any universe was this a team close to being challengers?
As for our great cup runs:
Lancashire Cup: beat Runcorn and Carlisle, knocked out by Salford
John Player Special Trophy: beat Oldham and Bramley, knocked out by Widnes
Challenge Cup: beat Halifax, Keighley and Hull KR, knocked out by Wigan
So the only top division teams we beat in the cup were Halifax and Oldham. So Roach and this great pack, who saved their best for the cup, proved themselves against lower division teams in front of crowds of 3000 or so.
www.rugbyleagueproject.org/seaso ... mmary.html
But hey maybe if only we'd got the Wembley money in 1989 that team could have gone on to dominate rugby ahead of a Wigan side that had Hanley, Edwards, Gregory, Bell, Hampson, Gill, Lydon, the Iros.....
The side I get nostalgic about is the great team of Daryl Van de Velde that reached back to back Challenge Cup semi finals in 2000 and 2001 with a great pack that included Gee, Farrar, Nikau, McCurrie, Knott and Nikau. If only we had got past Bradford in one of those semis we would have won either of those finals....in 2000 we had smashed Leeds a few weeks before Murrayfield and in 2001 we smashed Saints just before Twickenham.
As for John Woods and Paul Bishop or Rocky Turner I raise you Allan Langer and Lee Briers.
And DVDVs side had guys like Kohe-Love, Hunte and Smyth that were prolific try scorers so more than a match for your Cullen, Darbyshire and Forster era.
Who knows if only we'd won one of those cup semis DVDVs side could have gone on to dominate in place of Bradford or Saints. | |
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Top Trumps.
Phil Blake v Allan Langer...
Phil Blake.
John Woods v Lee Briers...
John Woods.
Although Langer was special he doesn't come close to what I saw Blake do.
As for Woods up against Briers, that is a wind up comparison and I wont bite.
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Briers won three Challenge Cups and a league leaders shield with Warrington, Woods despite playing behind a stronger pack finished mid table or low table and only made progress in the cups when we played lower division teams.
So Briers for me.
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "Briers won three Challenge Cups and a league leaders shield with Warrington, Woods despite playing behind a stronger pack finished mid table or low table and only made progress in the cups when we played lower division teams.
So Briers for me.'"
 .... I know you are on a deliberate wind up here, but Briers doesn't come close to Woods (or Andy Gregory, of whom this thread is about?) |
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