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I'll give you one right of reply with irrefutable evidence to back that up otherwise that last post is gone

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As someone has said before, Koukash is a scandal just waiting to happen.

There is no comparison to be made between him and Simon Moran on any level.

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Isn't the ground in the lease or ownership of Salford City Council with sub tenants being both rugby clubs ...Salford & Sale ?

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Quote: ninearches "Isn't the ground in the lease or ownership of Salford City Council with sub tenants being both rugby clubs ...Salford & Sale ?'"


I thought so, one of the big issues John Wilkinson was meeting was the cost of the rent.

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I remember the first time we played there & i rang the stadium for tickets only to be told they had nothing to do with the Reds & they gave me another number.

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Is it true he supplies Tesco with horses ?

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I'm puzzled by Koukash. I welcome anyone with money and ideas in to RL, but there is a (or what appears on the outside at least) a significant nativity about him for a well educated guy.

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Quote: BrianBradyHandOff "Is it true he supplies Tesco with horses ?'"


Wow, so funny! We've missed you on the Salford board with your hilarious "dr nokash" comments, gone a bit quiet since he brought in 14 new players.

Really don't know why wire fans are so touchy, can't be jealousy surely we're years behind you. Maybe it's fear, some of you were actually fans before Moran and realise a top quality team can be bought over time, no other teams fans are so anti koucash's

Although to be honest most wire I've spoken to are genuinely happy and excited for Salford, shame you can't all be so gracious. Good luck next season

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Quote: John Gilbert Reds " In 12 months he's done more for marketing Super League than the RFL or any other chairman. All the Australian media could talk about during the most prestigious horse racing event of the year (Melbourne Gold Cup) was Salford Red Devils and Super League.
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See this is precisely the kind of gibberish that gets me raging.........

WHAT has he done, in terms of marketing that is better than what the RFL have done, and you could say the RFL have done no marketing whatsoever so he doesn't have a particularly high bench mark to aim for..........

but what exactly has he done....?
he wasnt one of the "rebel owners" that were not going to be stiffed by Gary Hetherington. Only now has he decided to comment on the Structure of the game. But what great Idea is he trumpeting from the roof tops that will create a TV rights clamour and windfall for all clubs.....????? he wants the salary cap increased that's all

What has he done to get ALL fans revved up for the new season? In my opinion hes dampened enthusiasm by bleating on about losing everyone to the NRL and saying only two clubs in the entire league are not in any financial trouble ...and then wants the salary cap raised, great idea! I wonder if the banks got into trouble by letting people with no money, borrow lots of money? he only has to ask Dave Matthews one of his staff, he worked at the Coop Bank...!

Then despite being so good at Marketing, he bitches about his own club's failing in marketing with "The Red Devilution " only attracting 2,000 season ticket sales . And all that despite his own highly original Marketing master plan that was that poopy little plane flying over Old Trafford.

oh and get it right over the melbourne cup, the Aussie media had him down as a crackpot pantomime villain when he told them, as well as winning the melbourne cup he was going to steal all their best rugby players as well....hardly professional blue chip marketing.........

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Quote: Wirefan "I'm puzzled by Koukash. I welcome anyone with money and ideas in to RL, but there is a (or what appears on the outside at least) a significant nativity about him for a well educated guy.'"

I think he knows exactly what he is doing with all his controversial statements and tweets. Genuinely looking forwards to seeing how the club gets on this year- I can't remember when I last said that about a SL side.

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Quote: Gadger "Wow, so funny! We've missed you on the Salford board with your hilarious "dr nokash" comments, gone a bit quiet since he brought in 14 new players.

Really don't know why wire fans are so touchy, can't be jealousy surely we're years behind you. Maybe it's fear, some of you were actually fans before Moran and realise a top quality team can be bought over time, no other teams fans are so anti koucash's

Although to be honest most wire I've spoken to are genuinely happy and excited for Salford, shame you can't all be so gracious. Good luck next season'"


Your last sentence softens this somewhat, but you've misread the entire thread with your earlier comments. Although there are a few naysayers about Dr Koucash's style, the main thrust here is that he is foolish to expect either instant success, or that the Salford public will quadruple their interest in the team overnight ( as would be shown by attendance going from 2k to 8k ). Success can be acquired [iover time[/i, but buying players is only part of that. Dr Koucash needs to be satisfied with at least five years of steady growth, anything that comes before that should be viewed as a bonus, not a target.

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Quote: Wirefan "I'm puzzled by Koukash. I welcome anyone with money and ideas in to RL, but there is a (or what appears on the outside at least) a significant nativity about him for a well educated guy.'"



When you say "significant nativity" the Salford fans are probably hoping that he is the 'second coming' rather than just one born every minute

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Gadger wrote:-
Really don't know why wire fans are so touchy, can't be jealousy surely we're years behind you. Maybe it's fear, some of you were actually fans before Moran and realise a top quality team can be bought over time, no other teams fans are so anti koucash's

Although to be honest most wire I've spoken to are genuinely happy and excited for Salford, shame you can't all be so gracious. Good luck next season


I think it was one of the Hollywood moguls that said "There aint no such thing as bad publicity" and, let's face it, Koukash has a genius for attracting publicity.
Apart from the world cup, his comments have commanded more media space for Rugby League than anything else during the close season and talking about him is better than dreaming up rumours for discussion, as usually happens, because of the paucity of news that emanates from the clubs and Rugby League Headquarters during the close season.
I know it would be anathema to Simon Moran but we do need a few more headline grabbers in the game to put it in the eye of a wider public. Even if we think they are talking garbage.
I laud him for the amount of money he has put in to Salford and wish him every success because the game needs a team in the Manchester/Salford area that can consistently compete for honours and can hopefully, in time, build up a large fan base.
However I must agree that he has an awful long way to go. The stadium is not in the best position and the initial fan response to his efforts is disappointing. If it is any consolation, it is disappointing to all those who want to see a viable Super League of twelve or however many competitive clubs when every match is eagerly anticipated as a contest. Instead of an elite of four clubs winning everything.
It would appear that this situation can only be reached by having however many wealthy backers to patronise the clubs because the power in the game rests too much with the wealthy clubs who stack the odds in their own favour.
Meanwhile 57 posts is not bad for a Koukash thread

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Salford obviously haven't sold as many season tickets as the chairman would have liked & it will be interesting to see if they have lost any of their old support from near the old ground who can't be bothered going to the new one.

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Come On ! Don't stumble at the final hurdle;the thread on the VT,on the Phil Clarke assessment,is getting a larger response.
In this months RLW Dr Koukash and Salford Red Devils are mentioned on pages 6,7;discussed by a chairman,agent and player on pages 8 and 9.
Lots of paragraphs from Lionel Hurst on page 38 - ''....people of vision,passion,enterprise and money..'' and the first person Nigel Wiskar allows to be quoted,and he is far from complimentary in his Daily Mirror pieces.
Salford even merit a mention on Phil Caplan's page.

Not only Warrington followers,but the great and good of rugby league are interested.

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