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Quote: just_browny "Could Matty Smith manage Lance Todd, Challenge Cup, Sl Champion, Harry Sunderland, Dream Team, MOS and World Cup winner all in the one season?'"



I hope so.

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Quote: Caveman "Myler is the best scrum half in the competition.
Joel Monaghan is a try machine.
Micky Higham has been outstanding this season.
Chris Hill has been brilliant in almost every single game, only Peacock has been better in SL this season.
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i can't argue with any of those shouts

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My dream team

1. Dixon
2. Hall
3. Goulding
4. Moon
5. J.Monaghan
6. Chase
7. Myler
8. Hill
9. Higham
10.Scruton
11.Westwood
12.Farrell
13.Sinfield


I'd fancy that team to beat the actual dream team, by some margin.

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Rugby League book about the 2012 season, with comments on the game in general as well as focussing on Warrington's attempt to win the title for the first time since 1955: //lupine-rob.hubpages.com/hub/Spirit-of-55:



Obviously it's nothing to worry too much about but the four Wire players I thought might have had a shout to get in were:

Hill, J. Monaghan, Higham and Grix.

Pretty sure Leeds have won a grand final at least once without a single player in the Dream Team.

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Quote: lefty goldblatt "I really give less than one French Connection UK about such rubbish.

Dream Teams mean nowt. International team selections make me scratch my head too, and they actually mean something.
Cast your minds back 21 years, fellas.
A certain William McGinty couldn't even get a bench spot for us, when we were average. He goes to Wigan, and within a few games, he's a starting second rower for the touring GB side, and from memory, played in all 3 Tests that tour.
As far as I'm concerned, I thought Jesus was the only one to have performed miracles on Earth. It seems John Monie could too, in turning Billy into an international standard player.

If your face fits..........'"

as did jimmy fairhurst, Neil Courtney, Brian case and Ian potter!

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I love how Myler plays, and is indeed the best no7, but he doesn't deserve selection.
You have to earn a position on merit, not on ability

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Quote: Thelonius "Not normally one for stats but comparing Tom Lineham and Joel Monaghan...

Joel has scored 23 try's to Toms 14
Missed 8 Tackles compared to Toms 17
57 Tackle busts compared to 38
272 carrys and 2214 metres compared to 243 and 1960
Joel has made 20 clean breaks, Tom 12
1 penalty given away compared to 4

Clearly Tom Lineham has had the better season!

The whole things is a bit of a farce.'"


I would agree with you. I think Lineham has been selected because of his broken field strong runs, whereas Monaghan is mainly a finisher on the end of kicks. ??

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Quote: Amazin "My dream team

1. Dixon
2. Hall
3. Goulding
4. Moon
5. J.Monaghan
6. Chase
7. Myler
8. Hill
9. Higham
10.Scruton
11.Westwood
12.Farrell
13.Sinfield


I'd fancy that team to beat the actual dream team, by some margin.'"


WOT no "Giants" d040.gif d040.gif

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[quote="Eddie Hemmings said not ":1h9um51j] "Remember last time they were here, the Huddersfield Giants, they lost to a Luke Walsh drop goal. He's only scored four drop goals in his St Helens career has Luke Walsh and each and every one of them have been scored by Luke Walsh"[/quote:1h9um51j]:



Quote: Giantscorpio "WOT no "Giants" A Giants squad that finished one point ahead of a Warrington squad that didn't even bother turning up for their two games against Widnes. Had they done so (turned up versus Widnes) then that Warrington squad would have topped the pile with no Dream Team players. Maybe not so d040.gif d040.gif after all!

It's all down to opinions, and clearly the journalists opinions are worth jack ****. I would love to know whether the 'journos' all got together and chose to leave out the antipodeans with it being a world cup year, or were they asked to do so by the RFL.

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Does this argument about "not turning up against Widnes" hold for other years too?

When Cullen was coach we would have about 10 or 12 games a season when we didn't turn up (often including against Widnes).

Can we retrospectively claim some league titles if we count those as wins if we'd turned up?

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Quote: Amazin "My dream team

1. Dixon
Still no saints players ? icon_surprised.gifops:

I know we don't deserve any this year but your selection is nearly as bad as the official one.

Goulding is pure garbage. Dixon cannot defend full stop. Scruton is average at best and should not come before Peacock. And Farrell is completely over rated and bigged up ont Sky. When ratboy is not around Farrell's only move ends up with no result; he is one dimensional .

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[b:33tg3xj5]Me:[/b:33tg3xj5] I'm still reeling from the news that someone is considering watching the 1st and 3rd game on Saturday and NOT watching Warrington play. It's like being in Shea Stadium when the Beatles came to town and deciding to nip out for a fag. [b:33tg3xj5]knockersbumpMKII:[/b:33tg3xj5] Is it FOOK, you're good but you're not THAT good, jesus you wanky fans need to get over yourselves, Beatles at the Shea in '65 was a once in a lifetime opportunity for some (despite the following years performance), you can watch a very good team in primrose & yellow play every week if you really wanted to but comparing it to one of the very best music groups of all time in an iconic stadia such as the shea is overegging your importance, you're not even the best team in SL atm:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50086.jpg



I struggle to think of anything I give less of a toss about than the SL Dream Team (just enough to post on it). A few names stand out as being odd inclusions, Laughable Matty Smith being one. This isn't a Wigan thing either - Charnley has been one of the best players in the league this year and is a genuine try scoring threat regardless of where he is on the field, or whether he's in a hotel room with his todger out and a camera phone (allegedly).

The most eye catching thing is the nationality. If the players vote for it, then fine. But, if the press vote for it and its part of some idea to "big up" national players ahead of the World Cup a la Sinfield's Golden Boot then I dispair. The Sinfield pick was clearly for policitcal reasons. And again, this isn't an anti Leeds thing - Kevin Sinfield is an absolutely superb captain and player for Leeds. But he isn't the best player in the World and these 13 aren't the best players in Superleague.

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