Understand what you are saying Tache, the RL seem to have decreed that the game is batter managed with a continuous dialogue with the players which if managed properly can be a good thing. It's when it becomes too pally pally it can become a problem as you say. The union refs leaving the players completely baffled and little dialogue doesn't necessarily earn respect.

Regarding Silverwood, he just cannot manage the PTB with any consistency and this leads to frustration amongst the players and the supporters alike. Also, despite helpful lines on the pitch he cannot keep the teams apart which also leads to frustration.

I would like to see if there is a statistic which shows how many skirmishes there are in Siverwood's games as opposed to other refs.

Thought I'd look at some decisions that weren't given, you can't get everything but you'd expect some to then clean/speed up the game.

07:25 - holding down on Hill not given, Higham then knocks on.

08:52 - Looks like Lomax either knocks on, or tackle complete. Drop out then conceded.

10:35 - grapple tackle on Higham

10:52 - 2nd effort keeping Higham's legs down

12:15 - Lomax 2nd effort on Joel taking him back to ground. We then made a forward pass.

13:35 - Hill having his head/neck pulled down after the tackle

13:57 - Wilkin lying on Bridge, we then scored though.

17:05 - Jones lying on when Ratchford won collision.

17:15 - holding on and lying in the ruck.

(After those 2 he did finally give one)

19:58 - Ratchford brought to ground again by Saints lying in the ruck, we then lost the ball.

22:05 - Westwood wins collision against 3 and then is held down.

22:15 - move shouted, it then takes Tony P 4 seconds to clear as he's looking at his line.

22:41 - I still think it looks to be kicked out of Evans hands.

26:22 - Wilkin trying everything to stay on Hill, even gets a piggyback

31:37 - Morley gets taken high by LMS.

35:18 - Manu taking around 7 seconds, and looking at line

36:23 - Turner comes up with a hand still on the ball.

How do Saints then get that holding down call on Bridge just before half time, after they were taking ages on their tackles.