Since last year, just don't care enough about losing as long as we are in the running come playoff time, if it was football league format i'd be gutted but i'm not.

All but twice in past 13 SL season's have the champions come from outside the top two placed teams. Last years quite freak result may still be fresh in your mind, but it was nothing more than anomaly. More than likely this year's champions will come from the top two placed teams once again.

I'n not for a minute suggesting you won't come second, because I think you will. I just don't like the fact that because of what happened last year, people automatically assume it will happen again and again. Because I don't believe it will, and history suggests it won't either.

Granted the new top eight system does IMO make it easier for lower placed sides to win it. But quality should shine through, as it did when Wigan won it from top spot under the 8 team play-off system in 2010.

I'd agree with most of this.

I would much rather see a return to top five play-offs under which first place received much more of a reward. The current structure makes the difference between coming first and second marginal with the potential for "club-call" working against the first place team by motivating their opposition.

Still don't think the race for the minor premiership is any where near over. A motivated Catalans team will be a difficult game for Wigan next week (I may pop down to The Stretton Fox to catch it on satelite tv) so it may still all come down to the Challenge Cup Final dress rehearsal in August.

Guys there is only one point in the top two (we are going to beat Wigan again- my favourite traditionas of late) Wigan have to slip up once more. We are plnty capable of beating all the teams in the league; even more so when we have Solo and Monas and Myler back.

As much as it annoys me, we can easily be top of the table come the end of the sesason.

Not the end of the world, we slipped up to Widnes, by being too light and taking them for granted.

You lot are lucky we never seem to meet when we are in hot form though

I bet you don't with £20 + paypal fees riding on it

The Challenge Cup might have a bearing on things as well.

Look how Wigan dropped off alarmingly after winning the Challenge Cup last year (and Leeds, on the other hand, picked up dramatically...)

I can see a Warrington v Wigan clash coming up at Wembley and the edge might come off the winners hunger for the rest of the season whilst the loser will be super driven to make amends.