Jesus It lools like Gods Waiting room..

i liked the top corner that was on the other side of teh stand, the one where all the empty seats were.

Last year we made far more noise that we did on Friday. We bitch slapped them from the off and never looked like losing IMO. The majority of the second half was party time, and therefore much louder than Friday night.

It was bloody tense in them there stands on Friday, and it’s hard to sing when you are biting your finger nails, makes the win all the sweeter though when it does come. Perhaps we should have spent the entire second half doing the Poznan, and not sat glued to a thrilling climax to a great game. We would have made more noise, and that's what counts at the end of the day isn't it.

I wonder if the blonde near the "g" in rugby had to pass an "initiation" to joing the gang?

Oh look its the only Warrington fan on this entire board that appreciates that Wigan's support is about 20x better than it used to be and respects the amount of effort that goes into putting these displays on week in week out. I have no idea why the rest of you get so "@rsey" about it, you should be glad to see things like this going on in the sport.

And why is that?

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, even you.

I didnt say they wasn't, most fans of other clubs are very complimentary to the displays however and think what has been done is great for the sport, your fans however seem to non stop slag it, deep down I think you'd all love your own club to do something similar, the atmosphere at the HJ seems very poor and needs something to spark it.

The atmosphere at HJ is poor when we play wigan. We only seem to raise it when we play the big teams like leeds and saints

Obviously winning 3 trophies in 3 years compared to Saints 0 doesn't matter then. Wigan is your Cup final.

cup finals are our cup finals.

For me, I don't really care about Wigan's atmosphere, but it made me cringe when your lot come out with things like 'Ultras'. It comes across as arrogant, then when we beat you, we only ever hear things like "our fans were well better" and "you only sing barmy army, we were making atmosphere since half six". If Wigan fans decided to decorate their stand a little, or decided they wanted to form a choir-esque area of support for fans to sing, then fine, but when you start calling yourselves Ultras, and end up ramming down opposition fans' throats that your singing is the dog's nuts, then most fans will go out of their way to have a pop. Look at Liverpool in the football, many Liverpool fans are deluded in the belief that our fans are the best fans in the world, yet the majority of away fans that go to Anfield will sing "your support is f*ing sh*t" and "you only sing when you're winning", largely because all they ever hear about is the famous Anfield atmosphere, but it's very rarely there any more, it hasn't been there consistently since the stadium became fully seated. If fans swan around saying "we're the best this" and "you're only jealous of us for this", expect to have it rammed down your throat at every given opportunity.

I think you have summed that up extremely succinctly.

I think you could add that there is an element of them bragging about running, when they haven't even learned to walk. Membership, I believe, is down on last year, they have already been stung with the 'ultras' name and changed it to their, equally as embarrassing, new name and they have very embarrassing flags, which are copies of those in Europe.

The bragging makes it sound like there is an actual movement and force to be reckoned with that dwarfs all other support, when, in fact, most crowds are as loud or louder and the number of people associated with the group is dwindling. Just look at that picture of the flag wavers. Most look dead or bored (and that is the key group, at the biggest game of the season)

It is a true embarrassment and it sounds like the big boys bragging about their 'no girls clubhouse'. It is just a bunch of people trying to inflate their ego with very little to shout about.

Good post. The use of the term Ultras should be questioned. It is also the name used by the most feared set of football hooligans in Europe.

Throughout the European, and to a smaller extent South American, Ultra scene there is definitely a move away from the term Ultra.

I believe the real hardcore fanatics are now preferring to label themselves "bum bangers".

Membership down? Where are you getting that information from? There are 150-200 people behind those banners seen in the photo. The banners were 10 rows down from the back. The core of the group has grown from 5 or 6 last year to about 25-30. Those are lads who are constantly involved, not just faces you see at most games. That's the core. The number is doubled most weeks and at your game it was 150-200. That's progress for us, not a dwindling movement as you put it.

And the name hasn't changed. We never dropped the Ultras tag. It's just before Brigantes we didn't have a name for the group.

I'm also curious as to why it's suddenly embarressing and cringeworthy again when you've sent me a PM in the past praising the idea and saying that you wish Wire would do the same. If it's jealousy mate, just say so.