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Quote: lefty goldblatt "Well, a PROVEN try scoring rate, for one
Riley's tries do take some scoring. Every time I see a Williams try, it's been something little more than getting the ball 3 yards out, and falling over the line.

Not a direct question to Lord Tony Smith, but a general one to everyone on here....ask yourself this...would Williams have scored that try v Bradford (a) last season (the 100 yarder with a chip and chase involved)...and the answer is...never in a million years

I know we can't have a side full of superstars, but Williams is just NOT the answer to our wing spot (imo).'"

I agree with you regarding the try against Bradford, no Williams wouldn't of scored it, but alot of Riley's tries didn't take much scoring.

For what it's worth, I think they are both similar players, I just think Riley cuts in alot more than he should do. I'd have Williams out of the two but not by much.

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I wish we still had Kevin Penny. Imagine him taking that intercept, TRY TIME.

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Quote: Mark "I wish we still had Kevin Penny. Imagine him taking that intercept, TRY TIME.'"



+1

I still curse Messrs Cullen and Lowes for totally destroying Kevin's confidence.

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Could score tries no other SL player is capable of scoring.

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There was an interesting article in this week's League Express that included Smith talking about Riley and how he's fallen behind Evans and Williams in the pecking order. He said all of the things you would expect, he's working hard, knows what he needs to do to get into the team etc. The really interesting bit I thought, was that Smith also mentioned Ryan Shaw and the fact that he probably deserved a run out in the first team.

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Has everybody forgotten O'Brian?

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Quote: Vernonwire "Has everybody forgotten O'Brian?'"

who?

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Oh Brian Bevan

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rlhttps://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/wolves/wolvesnews/9055548.INJURY_UPDATE__O_Brien_set_for_long_lay_off/rl him. He will feature at some stage next season. Not that you didn't know who. icon_twisted.gif

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Quote: SLIMply no treble! "who?'"
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Quote: Vernonwire "predictive text error.'"

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Quote: Mark "Could score tries no other SL player is capable of scoring.'"


Yes and he was also completely clueless defensively, couldn't catch a cold under pressure and wasn't big enough to tackle near our try line.

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It was Cullen and Lowes who had Penny in the team.

Tony Smith was the one who didn't rate him and shipped him out on loan.

But at the end of the day Penny was nowhere near the quality of Hicks or Joel Monaghan, he was not as good as Riley either, so thats why he hasn't played for us. Maybe someone like Wigan or Saints will pick him up and he'll come back to haunt us but I wouldn't bank on it.

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When discussing wingers it is easy to get carried away with the need for blistering pace above everything else. It is great but our game is more dependent on pushing through in support. Just look how many tries that Lee Briers has scored in the last couple of seasons by supporting breaks. Joel had no support and Wigan had more determination to track back than we did to support. I think Riley and other wingers fall behind king and Joel on tackle one and two. The basis of our attack is based on what happens on tackle one by winning that collision and gaining a quick PTB so the opposition are unable to dominate on tackles 2 and 3 or gaining a penalty for holding down because they have lost collision and fear a quick PTB. How many penalties do Sam tomkins or pat Richards get from kick return plays?

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