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Quote: SLIMply the best "the stewards do need an SIA badge to operate which involves the above training, not all on duty are stewards though, some are fire marshals some do not have SIA badges i have observed, a lot work as door men the rest of the week and must have SIA badges as they work for MYL a wigan door firm!'"


Fair enough, it was just something that i was wondering.

Does SIA training involve big crowd situations such as on the terraces?

Thanks for clearing that up though icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: gazmeister_89 "Fair enough, it was just something that i was wondering.

Does SIA training involve big crowd situations such as on the terraces?

Thanks for clearing that up though
yes it's NVQ standard, you do all sorts of gubbins including crowd management, communication, alcohol laws, de-esculation tecniques, drug awareness & first aid. to name a few things that stole hours of my life a few years ago icon_wink.gif

then you get to pay £260 for your badge! if you pass icon_rolleyes.gif

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I've been watching for years & never once had a beer during the games. Never missed it & it's no problem.

Let's try the Hudds approach & have no speccies at the games .. All problems resolved instantly.

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Quote: SLIMply the best "yes it's NVQ standard, you do all sorts of gubbins including crowd management, communication, alcohol laws, de-esculation tecniques, drug awareness & first aid. to name a few things that stole hours of my life a few years ago
ah ok. Cheers for clearing it up. i would have been shocked if there was no training for a job such as that.

Now we just need to get them to be more responsible and willing to take action with their jobs i guess

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Quote: gazmeister_89 "ah ok. Cheers for clearing it up. i would have been shocked if there was no training for a job such as that.

Now we just need to get them to be more responsible and willing to take action with their jobs i guess'"


to do that you'd have to pay them more icon_lol.gif most stewards are on peanuts!

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I normally have a pint or two beforehand. Then possibly a few more after to celebrate. Never once have I caused trouble. It all comes down to knowing your limits.

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Quote: SLIMply the best "to do that you'd have to pay them more
You pay peanuts, you get......... we all know the rest!
The stewards at the HJ are useless, they do nothing, just like the ones at Wembley, when that fight broke out in our end. Everyone could see that was bubbling up for a long time, but the stewards.....?

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Quote: Wires71 "OOI Do you extend your attitude to embracing change in your religious beliefs?'"


Of course - many of the doctrines of my religion are outdated & I fully appreciate that they do not fit in the modern world, I'm intelligent enough & know my own mind well enough to be able to form my own opinions while still living within the overlying responsibilities of my faith. I have also stated on a thread recently why I believe it takes so long for change in established religions and why they appear to be so far behind the times in a rapidly changing world. All in the public domain so no problem admitting to it. Why do you see the point in attacking my beliefs as a basis for my opinions on this matter? They are not related at all!

Anyway back on topic - a lot of the stewards on Sunday were drafted in from the MEN Arena. They are there to do their job with additional security who are meant to offer protection. One female steward in particular was verbally abused by a drunk fan who wanted to go out for a smoke, and a member of the security team who witnessed it did nothing to protect her or back her up. Her comment was that in the MEN that fan would have been sat on his arris on the arena steps within 30 seconds of his actions. Why should she put her full efforts into a situation then knowing that she will not recieve help or back up from those who are meant to provide it?

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Quote: gazmeister_89 "Do the stewards have any professional training. such as

4 types of stewards at HJ stadium. Fire stewards...which as their name suggests. Safety stewards (usually the one in yellow) who are employed by the club and DO received training. They basically assist fans ensure they arrive safe, stay safe and leave the stadium safe. Many of these are local and have been on "the other side of the fence" for years before working for the club.

Showsec who are a private firm who handle events around the country and basically deal with manning the carparks/entrances etc and and the "security".

This is operated by MYL who usually trained and registered doormen. When many people talk about heavyhanded stewards they are usually talking about these guys but these guys are only asked to become involved when thing have got heavy.

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