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| Quote: Chief Scout "The year before at service area level, Warringon won St Helens 50 - 0!'"
If we won St Helens it would mean we'd have loads of players so couldn't sign any more from Warrington.
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| Quote: bulldog13 "No!
My lad left Warrington scholarship because of the focus and overwhelming desire to bulk the lads up from 14 yrs up with an intense weight training programme at the expense of developing core skills. Quote
thats exactly what i said, i no of 4 friends who have signed for other clubs due to not liking the way warrington treat them they only want you to have muscle
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| Was talking to the mum of Josh Swift today. She was aware of this thread and wanted to make it clear that Josh was only offered a scholarship from Warrington months after offers from firstly Widnes and then Saints. The only offer from Warrington came after he had already signed at Saints.
As far as she is aware the Warrington scouts watched a Crosfields team including Josh play around December last year. Some Crosfields players were offered scholarships as a result of this, Josh was not one of them. As stated above the 2 scholarship offers from Widnes and Saints were made in May. He is/was a member of the Warrington service area team but was not offered a scholarship until, she believes, Warrington lost a number of players to other clubs and were looking to make up the numbers.
Why Joe and Kane ended up at Saints I havent a clue.
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| Quote: sirlesboyd "Was talking to the mum of Josh Swift today. She was aware of this thread and wanted to make it clear that Josh was only offered a scholarship from Warrington months after offers from firstly Widnes and then Saints. The only offer from Warrington came after he had already signed at Saints.
As far as she is aware the Warrington scouts watched a Crosfields team including Josh play around December last year. Some Crosfields players were offered scholarships as a result of this, Josh was not one of them. As stated above the 2 scholarship offers from Widnes and Saints were made in May. He is/was a member of the Warrington service area team but was not offered a scholarship until, she believes, Warrington lost a number of players to other clubs and were looking to make up the numbers.
Why Joe and Kane ended up at Saints I havent a clue.'"
That bit in bold shouldn't be happening with the recent success the club has had young local players should be staying with us not going elsewhere, basic mistakes are being made somewhere.
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| Quote: MacBlondie "Yes, KC, the St Helens lad whos brother played for Saints, supported...THE WOLFS.
protip for you, Saints signed him from a wigan amateur club, think it was orrell st james'"
Twas St Judes. He played in the sameteam as Longy, as well as GB U16's.
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| We've been taking 'em for years. Saints signed virtually the entire Crosfields U16's one year, to get Andy(?) Haigh, Joey Hayes and Danny Arnold.
Bracek is one you took off us. He came thru at the same time as Graham and was tipped as the better of the two. The rest is history.
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| And we did the same with Leatherbarrow (Mellor& wigan)
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| I don't think well ever know what goes on to make kids leave our club! As much as wed like to!
My cousin is a hooker who played his rugby for leyland warriors! Until a few warrington scouts asked him and a few other players to move to burtonwood(am I right with this) bulldogs! As they wanted the players in an area which the wire scouts could have first choice on them! And they woukd be pkaying alongside other lads that had been moved in to the area! Most notably rhys and ben evans! However another was a vinny kokupa(or something along those lines)! I went to watch the boys tear through a latchfors side in the cup and as I was chatting to my cousin(who had received the man of the match award) was approached by peter farrell! Who told him that within a week or two peter would be back down to the club to arrange meetings with the players warrington were going to sign, and that my cousin would be one of them! However when farrel came back to the club he picked out the evans twins. And vinny, leaving my cousin behind, denying having ever spoken to my cousin about playing for warrington! My cousin was absolutely distraught as he was commuting for training and games from leyland just to be signed by warrington! And there was a whole fuss where my parents had to sign to say he was staying with us in warrington on weekends just so he was aloud to play for them! However after this saints got a hold of my cousin and put him in their train on squad! In the end he just missed out on signing for saints due to them picking up another young hooker from wigan! However they told him that if he wanted he would be more than welcome to train with them, providing that he moved to blackbrook so that they could keep a better monitor on his progress! My cousin snapped up the chance to train with the saints and now will never have anything to do with our club due to the way he was treated by them! And the way he was treated so positively by saints even though he didn't make the team!
This is just another example of our club being poor with the way they treat some teens and its no surprise that other clubs are more succesful in those areas!
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| Read through most of these posts and really didn't see anybody named who left and made it into the Saints first team other than Andy Dixon ... can anyone correct me?
As far as Andy goes, great to see him doing so well, he was always a great kid and a strong player. Coached him when he was younger and despite going to school in Warrington he was always a Saints fan through and through!
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| Quote: Paul Youane "If we won St Helens it would mean we'd have loads of players so couldn't sign any more from Warrington.'"
You do realise he says "won" just to troll you and you fall for it, every, single, time, no matter which forum he posts it on.
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| Both Kane and Jo are good players and I wouldn't be surprised to see both of them make it.
Warrington have also lost another good player to Wigan from the same age group and some have gone to Widnes because there seemed to be more of a focus to bring in lads from union and the lads had had enough. After realising that there weren't going to be enough players the club then started phoning round the players asking them if they wanted to come back.
I also heard recently that there was a player, U16s I think, who had an injury and Warrington said come back to us when it's sorted and we'll see what we can offer but the lad got approached from Wigan who said that they would pay for the treatment and rehabilitation. Who would you choose?
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| Quote: Saint Rabban "Twas St Judes. He played in the sameteam as Longy, as well as GB U16's.'"
no he didnt... i played in the same age group as longy for years.... i was a hooker and he certainly wasnt playing against me... i hooked for lancashire at that age group as well.
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| Quote: MacBlondie "You do realise he says "won" just to troll you and you fall for it, every, single, time, no matter which forum he posts it on.'"
Whatever you say*, you prick
*although a trawl through Chief Scouts posting history would indicate the constant butchering of the English langauge in this manner for months before I raised it.
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| Quote: morleys_deckchair "no he didnt... i played in the same age group as longy for years.... i was a hooker and he certainly wasnt playing against me... i hooked for lancashire at that age group as well.'"
Yet another example of Warrington's neglect of a home-grown Wally Lewis right under their noses.
Shocking by the club how they rely upon proven, experienced youth rugby scouts and coaches to assess the worth of schoolboys rather than rely upon the players' parents and mates. It really needs sorting out before we end up with an Academy team that tops the table.
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| Quote: Paul Youane "Yet another example of Warrington's neglect of a home-grown Wally Lewis right under their noses.
Shocking by the club how they rely upon proven, experienced youth rugby scouts and coaches to assess the worth of schoolboys rather than rely upon the players' parents and mates. It really needs sorting out before we end up with an Academy team that tops the table.'"
it was a terrible mistake by all clubs that didnt offer me a contract.. i could have been one of the best 3rd rate hookers in lower league rugby had i been given the chance.
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