Sinfield is absolute cack, I for the life of me do not see why he gets smoke blown up his , he's a damn good kicker, but that's it.

He cant even pass to his right. He has to swing his body round, facing away from the sticks and then use the pass to the left motion.

I agree, I don't think he should be in the England team but I can still see them picking him at loose and putting lockers in the 2nd row, its happened before.

I think his kicking and leadership work for leeds, especially with Mcguire and Burrow, as a trio they work very well together.

I'd also probably have Jamie Langley for england over westwood as well.

You cant compare the 2 achievements. The cup... yea its good but you only have to win half a dozen games and you win a pot.... the league is over half a year with 20 odd games !!! I know which most sane and educated people would respect more.

Langley over Westwood? I was willing to let O'loughlin go, but there's no way Langley should be put in over Westwood.

My thoughts exactly. That's laughable

You get many chances in the league, it doesn't matter if you start crap, just look at Leeds this year. But with the challenge cup, it's sudden death, you can't afford to lose, in my eyes it's better to lose no games on your way to winning a cup than falling short on a few occasions. But we're not in reversed positions, we see things differently.

2nd in the league with a chance of going to both Old Trafford and Wembley

Or some dinner plate winner that nobody remembers

Though choice

.....its one helluva great feeling

watch this space