People don't like us (Wigan) because of our PAST dominance of the sport and our recent inability to budget the cap.

People dont like Saints because of their recent sucess, the fact they have/had some very good players.

People dont like Warrington purely because of SOME of your fans. Nothing to do what goes on on the pitch.

You are not the new Wigan, you are not the new Saints, you are the new "old" warrington but with a trophy.

(Oh and im only on this board because there was that many wigan threads I thought it was the Wigan board)

What an absolutely pathetic excuse.

It's alright, I don't like Wigan anymore after some of your fans attitudes this year. Some of them are right two-hats.

I can't believe we have any more or less troublesome fans than any other provincial North West town.

Quote: Wires71 "I can't believe we have any more or less troublesome fans than any other provincial North West town.'" Read this: www.amazon.co.uk/Family-Game-Unt ... 1903158621 We don't get shown in a very positive light, even if it is a couple of decades ago.

Quote: Wires71 "I can't believe we have any more or less troublesome fans than any other provincial North West town.'" Read this: www.amazon.co.uk/Family-Game-Unt ... 1903158621 We don't get shown in a very positive light, even if it is a couple of decades ago.

FWIW i think we are the new Wigan not because of the number of other fans that dont like us but because we have a decent number of fans that will get on the back of players after one or two games. Expectation has provided some fans with a mindset that only players like Darren Lockyer would be accepted, When these players fail to settle in they get on their case straight away that they are not at the top of the Goldthorpe medal league and want to send them back and replace them with some youngsters who have played a couple of games. When they eventually settle in they are still reluctant to accept them.
In short we have some fans who will never be happy. We possibly a greater percentage of these than maybe Wakey, Cas and Hull KR which is brought about by expectation.
before we get the "Accepting mediocrity" posts it is more about managing expectation.

With due respect to you even Saints were never the new Wigan. Times have changed and so has the game, I'm sure you will be more than happy to set a bench mark yourselves rather than worrying about what we've done in the past, because that is only what it is.

Good post. Also nice to see a Wigan fan who sees it as it really is. We are not, and never will be the new Wigan. We are Warrington, and if we really are entering a 'golden era,' then that would be great. If we don't, I'm sure that most of us will still be here watching the Wire as always.

Not read it, nor do I have any intention of doing so, but I have been led to believe that it's a load of donkey poo, and this said individual, may not even exist. I work with a Saints fan who was around in the so called 'hey day'and he reckons some of this book are tall tales. Not all mind you.

no, youve won something recently

Yep. Saints have won two out of the last eight Super League titles. Wigan used to win every year.

I bet it irritates the heck out of the Wigan fans who watch mediocre Wigan teams get ritually smashed by good St Helens teams that they know would have been eaten for breakfast by a Wigan side with Hanley, Bell, Edwards and Gregory in it

Its true though.

as much it is amusing to put in these terms you simply can not ignore the achievements of Saints and downgrade them like this. They may have only won 2 titles in 8 years, and the title is the main thing to win but put it in different terms in 8 years they have finished top 5 times, won the CC 4 times, won the title twice won the WCC and in the years they werent winning they were more often than not runners up. Theyre no Wigan for sure but are still damn good and we would all cut our testicles off with a rusty meat cleaver to have half their sucess.

Pass me the meat cleaver when you've finished.