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what was yours out of interest W71

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Quote: Wire_Yed_79 "what was yours out of interest W71'"


Not done it in ages now, but basically aligned to Milton Friedman views (theory behind Thatcherism/Keith Joseph ideology) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_Friedman

Power of the individual over the state, state serves the people not the other way around, true deterministic power for each individual and unfettered market force led economic policy as opposed to state controlled/influenced.

So basically, low tax, low benefits, choice of health provider, choice of education provider, no nationalised industries (so anti Royal Mail), no subsidies to private organisations from the state (so anti bank bailouts), no unions, no minimum wage. Pro abortion, pro euthanasia, pro stem cell, secularist etc etc.
Quote: Wire_Yed_79 "what was yours out of interest W71'"


Not done it in ages now, but basically aligned to Milton Friedman views (theory behind Thatcherism/Keith Joseph ideology) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_Friedman

Power of the individual over the state, state serves the people not the other way around, true deterministic power for each individual and unfettered market force led economic policy as opposed to state controlled/influenced.

So basically, low tax, low benefits, choice of health provider, choice of education provider, no nationalised industries (so anti Royal Mail), no subsidies to private organisations from the state (so anti bank bailouts), no unions, no minimum wage. Pro abortion, pro euthanasia, pro stem cell, secularist etc etc.


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Quote: Wires71 "Not done it in ages now, but basically aligned to Milton Friedman views (theory behind Thatcherism/Keith Josephs)
i'd pay good money to sit in a pub across from you and slim and watch you chat all night. almost as good as Wire v Wigan

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Quote: Wire_Yed_79 "i'd pay good money to sit in a pub across from you and slim and watch you chat all night. almost as good as Wire v Wigan'"


Yeah but Slim is naive icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Wires71 "Yeah but Slim is naive
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Quote: Wires71 "It may lend more credibility to your argument if you read the manifesto though surely? I did, they are not for me, but I agree with a number of their policies.

The Holocaust issue is too complex for the likes of this board. There are many people who suggest the Holocaust repurcussions were used by political Jewish movements to justify Israel, and the atrocities committed therein. But as I said, not for this board. More to it than meets the eye though.'"


Manifestos, whether BNP or not, aren't worth the paper they are written on, and let's be serious, Griffin isn't going to write about his hatred for Non-Whites for all to see because that would simply expose him for the bigot he truly is.

I certainly don't begrudge Griffin his views however, just that unlike a few people on here, I can see past his 'political' front and instead focus on his racist thuggery.

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Quote: Wires71 "Not done it in ages now, but basically aligned to Milton Friedman views (theory behind Thatcherism/Keith Joseph ideology)
Most posters on here may have a greater understanding of your own views if you used language they understand. You could have simplified it as......

"Every man for himself" icon_wink.gif

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I hope the BNP can pressurise the government to kick the Ghurka's out of this country. Bunch of pensioners living off the welfare state.

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Quote: Herb Narvo "I hope the BNP can pressurise the government to kick the Ghurka's out of this country. Bunch of pensioners living off the welfare state.'"


Is there anybody stupid enough on here to fall for this one???... icon_lol.gif

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Quote: The Angry Pirate "I fully respect any person's freedom of speech....Just not sure why a few of you seem to be condoning a political party whose main aim seems to be bringing in some sort of apartheid??...
I don't think the BNP are advocating apartheid....apartheid was where a bunch of immigrants came to a country, took it over, and passed a set of laws to treat the natives as second class citizens.

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Quote: Wires71 "Yeah but Slim is naive

mmm really? how do you come to that conclusion?

the bnp have a very thin, nearly transparent veneer covering hate and xenophobia.

anything else they tell you is rubish, naivity is believing that they have any other agenda.
i've been to bergen belson and witnessed the by product of nationalism.
it all starts with control of minorities and results in ethnic clensing.

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"she wore, she wore, she wore a yellow gibbon" "she wore a yellow gibbon in the merry month of may" "and when i asked her why she wore a gibbon" "she said it's for the wire and it's gonna climb a tree!" INARDIS FIDELIS "If Noble is there next year I will not be renewing my season tickets mine and two grandchildren the future Wigan Suporters. How low can we get".............wigan fans ...ancient and loyal:41312.jpg



Quote: Wires71 "Not done it in ages now, but basically aligned to Milton Friedman views (theory behind Thatcherism/Keith Joseph ideology)

we are so politically different it's staggering icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Albino Wolf 2 "Our forefathers fought on the beaches of Normandy and in many other countries and places as well to secure our rights and freedom of speech and enable us to live in a society where we have options and choices.'"


A right, a freedom, ney, an honour that Nazi parties stand to abolish. The BNP, The National Front, 'Skinheads in Suits' if you like, represent Nazi values.

Quote: Albino Wolf 2 "We still have that and whilst you may disagree with other peoples options and choices it is nothing whatever to do with you and none of your business to critisise or judge.'"


Yes, but if YOU have freedom of expression, surely so does everybody else? Therefore, if you are free to vote BNP, I am free to criticise? See how it works?

Quote: Albino Wolf 2 "It's people like you that our forefathers fought to keep us from! '"

No, it's people like Nick Griffin my Grandfather lost friends in battle to keep us from. How very dare you insult his and their memory with a statement like that?!

Quote: Albino Wolf 2 "Why on earth you should want to bring it up on a RL message board is totally beyond me'"


Because, Warrington is a north west seat in Parliament. Nick Griffin holds a north west European Parliament seat. Very relevant, I feel, and much more worthy of sensible debate and discussion than a couple of scruffy brothers from Burnage IMO.

The problem lies that with rights, privellages, come responsibilities.
In this country, we have the privellage to be free to vote. We do, however, have a responsibilty of care to our fellow man and a responsibility to vote for the party we believe best suited to the election. The recent election was a Local Parliament election, the general consesus is that many people voted 'blind', not really looking at the parties' manifestos and policies.

The arguement that immigrants ruin Britian, IMO, is short sighted and ignorant - at very best!
Are we talking about the same britain here? The britain that had a global empire and ruled India for years? The britain who's greatest export is people? Australia and america being two examples where little trace of their heritage is left, instead a white, anglo species is dominant?
Britain, where hundreds of thousands of people leave everyyear for a new life in foreign countries? They are called expats, why not immigrants? That's what they are.
This country was built by immigrants - the romans built our roads and our towns, the vikings, french and germans gave us our expansive linguistic options. How far back do we go before we are british? The irish navis that aided the industrial revolution, they were immigrants. The ghurkas were, too. As was the cheap, but industrious labour that came to britain in th 60s when we needed.

Very much ruining the country indeed.

Amongst other things, the BNP's main beliefs include:
To be 'British', you cannot be non-white, regardless of how long many generations of your family have been British; you cannot be any religion other than Christian; you cannot be homosexual.
These are just a few examples. If this still doesn't phase you, how about the fact that they oppose WWII on the grounds that we fought with our own race - they actually praise Hitler!
Furthermore, the party is made up of ignorant, sexist bigots, several of whom are convicted rapists. They promote sexism to the extent of the private sphere, ie husbands/fathers the head of the household and women as inferior yet this is one of the traits of Islam that the BNP claim to oppose!

A girl I know who studies politics at Man Met summed up the BNP as "a racist, fascist, anti semetic, homophobic, islamophobic, sexist, nazi party proud of their holocaust denial".

I don't see the problem, either. icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: 'Hitman' Norvern Soul "A right, a freedom, ney, an honour that Nazi parties stand to abolish. The BNP, The National Front, 'Skinheads in Suits' if you like, represent Nazi values.



Yes, but if YOU have freedom of expression, surely so does everybody else? Therefore, if you are free to vote BNP, I am free to criticise? See how it works?


No, it's people like Nick Griffin my Grandfather lost friends in battle to keep us from. How very dare you insult his and their memory with a statement like that?!
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