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| Quote: mark_m "Me neither; the club would have survived but we would be a very different animal now.
I am reading a book written by Ray French written in the late eighties (More Kinds Of Rugby) and it is talking about Huddersfield being in the third division to enable them to build back up the club so it is an amazing turnaround to see them today. Like most clubs, often all you need is the will and deep pockets of one or more individuals in the mould of people like Ken Davy or John Wilkinson at Salford.'"
A massive handout from the RFL for a shambolic merger with Sheffield went a long way to help Hudds! |
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Didn't William Webb Ellis pick up the ball and run, someone should really tell Rugby Union.
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| Quote: Mr Wolf "A massive handout from the RFL for a shambolic merger with Sheffield went a long way to help Hudds!'"
I'd question whether any of those teams were running at a £2 million deficit and losing thousands of pounds a year. |
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| Quote: getdownmonkeyman "I'd question whether any of those teams were running at a £2 million deficit and losing thousands of pounds a year.'"
sheffield were losing money quite badly at the time i believe, and this was despite them winning the cup the year before as well. |
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "The question came up at one of the Squadbuilder forums in the Touchdown club in 2002 when we were fighting relegation, Andy Gatcliffe said the stadium was going ahead whether we went down or not.
If we'd stayed down and started the first season in the new stadium in the NL that might have made the first season's sponsorship at the HJ harder to sell, but I think as long as we were at the top of NL in 2003 we'd have been ok.'"
I was wondering if it would have got past the public enquiry if we had not been in the top flight in light of some of the comments made in the report. |
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| Quote: mark_m "I was wondering if it would have got past the public enquiry if we had not been in the top flight in light of some of the comments made in the report.'"
Personally, I couldn't see it. If you are outside the top level of sport, you certainly appear to lose a lot of clout. |
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| Quote: getdownmonkeyman "Personally, I couldn't see it. If you are outside the top level of sport, you certainly appear to lose a lot of clout.'"
That was what I was thinking; the report kept stressing the role of the club as the sporting focus of the town and the 'public need'. Wouldn't have been so strong if the club had to turn part-time and half the sponsors and supporters bailed out. |
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The public inquiry was in 2001. We got the yes verdict in December 2001, so the issue of relegation wouldn't have been a factor with the public inquiry. The final plans with Tesco were agreed in about May 2002. Remember Tesco wanted to have their supermarket to make money, and they couldn't have the supermarket without the stadium.
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "The public inquiry was in 2001. We got the yes verdict in December 2001, so the issue of relegation wouldn't have been a factor with the public inquiry. The final plans with Tesco were agreed in about May 2002. Remember Tesco wanted to have their supermarket to make money, and they couldn't have the supermarket without the stadium.'"
dec 2002 wasn't it? |
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| Quote: SEB "The inquiry "yes" was Dec 2001.
Final and full planning permission was Dec 2002:
That was the council approving the final plans. The hardest part had already been done at that stage by getting the public inquiry yes. The council had already indicated their support for the stadium in summer 2000.
Remember part of the argument was that for Warrington Wolves to have a long term Super League future we would need to have a new stadium, so without it we did face being in the lower leagues. Even if we had gone down the argument would have been the same, ie we need a stadium which meets the criteria to come back up.
I wonder how Simon Moran would have reacted if we'd been relegated in 2002. He might have wanted to move in and buy a majority share then, it would have cost him less to buy the club than it did in mid 2004 in SL with a new stadium. He would certainly have been able to fund us running a dominant NL squad. Cullen could have been the messiah that took us out of the lower leagues and won our first trophy in 12 years.
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