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| Quote: Uncle Rico "God forbid we win the Challenge Cup and we get to endure another year? I'm not saying that we will on either count but I do wonder how much people are actually relishing our current situation.'"
Is this not what masochism was invrnted for
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| Quote: Uncle Rico "God forbid we win the Challenge Cup and we get to endure another year? I'm not saying that we will on either count but I do wonder how much people are actually relishing our current situation.'"
" Lifes a bitch and then you die"
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| Quote: karetaker "Is this not what masochism was invrnted for
I suppose it is and that is what makes sport, or more accurately supporting a team so compelling
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| Quote: Wires71 "No you are being realistic in my view. This forum is odd at times. It usually takes a few more years for some people to catch up with what others can see right now.'"
Seems I was wrong. Only takes 4 months.
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| Quote: Uncle Rico "I think that if you ran a poll now as opposed to after 4 games then the result might be different, with more people calling time on Smith's tenure.
You might think that this strengthens your 'case' whereas I don't, as to have a change of opinion over time shouldn't necessarily be seen as weakness'"
It's just about seeing things earlier. The writing was on the wall a long time ago.
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| Quote: Uncle Rico "God forbid we win the Challenge Cup.'"
More chance of plaitting snot
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| Quote: Wires71 "It's just about seeing things earlier. The writing was on the wall a long time ago.'"
Your 'hunch' appears to have been proved right, but, then again if we'd have managed to limp into mid table obscurity in the top 8's with a few more wins and a couple of less drubbings you'd have pulled another 'I saw this first' out of the bag.
After all if someone considers that ONLY winning the GF marks a successful season you are giving yourself a comfortable 'I told you so margin'.
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| Quote: lefty goldblatt "More chance of plaitting snot'"
I think that you are right. However If we manged it would the majority on here be disappointed?
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| I've already got a silver trail up both my sleeves drying as we speak.
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| What if Brett Hodgson is appointed, the club gets on a bounce, knocks out Wigan and is only a game away from Wembley.
Stranger things have happened.
If this does happen though, Hodgson can't take the credit because he will basically have just ridden on the team that Smith built over many years, like TS did by taking Cullen's team to glory.
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| Quote: Uncle Rico "Your 'hunch' appears to have been proved right, but, then again if we'd have managed to limp into mid table obscurity in the top 8's with a few more wins and a couple of less drubbings you'd have pulled another 'I saw this first' out of the bag.
After all if someone considers that ONLY winning the GF marks a successful season you are giving yourself a comfortable 'I told you so margin'.'"
It's not about that. After copping a lot of flak earlier in the year for questioning Smith it seems de rigour now yet are playing as poorly now as we did in the first 6 games. Same mistakes, same disorganisation and same excuses. There is no sudden decline. Just some were in denial.
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| Quote: Wires71 "It's not about that. After copping a lot of flak earlier in the year for questioning Smith it seems de rigour now yet are playing as poorly now as we did in the first 6 games. Same mistakes, same disorganisation and same excuses. There is no sudden decline. Just some were in denial.'"
and that's where you and I differ in opinion, the "denial" strictly speaking it wasn't denial, but, a willingness to take a view based on more than three or four games.
I greed that the opinion poll might have a different complexion following the return to poor results and form
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "What if Brett Hodgson is appointed, the club gets on a bounce, knocks out Wigan and is only a game away from Wembley.
Stranger things have happened.
If this does happen though, Hodgson can't take the credit because he will basically have just ridden on the team that Smith built over many years, like TS did by taking Cullen's team to glory.'"
Don't worry, this team wouldn't Win a meat raffle.
This team is destined for relegation the teams below us are gaining momentum and we are in free fall.
If Smith is sacked and a new coach is brought in and he saves the club's superleague status it will be one of the greatest coaching achievements in the game such is the desperate place the players are in at the moment.
Smith took over a team that couldn't get past a play off game. ...the Tony Smith built side is much much worse.
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| Quote: the flying biscuit "Don't worry, this team wouldn't Win a meat raffle.
This team is destined for relegation the teams below us are gaining momentum and we are in free fall.
If Smith is sacked and a new coach is brought in and he saves the club's superleague status it will be one of the greatest coaching achievements in the game such is the desperate place the players are in at the moment.
Smith took over a team that couldn't get past a play off game. ...the Tony Smith built side is much much worse.'"
If we had got rid of TS at the end of last season for failing to win a Grand Final and brought in Brett Hodgson now and were say 3rd what would we be saying....he took a team that was top last year and took it backwards?
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| ....am I missing something?
Why does Hodgson's name keep appearing in the (as of yet) situations vacant column, for Smith's job?
As far as I can remember, he's played second fiddle to Denis Betts, who's team has been dog pooh (bar 6 of the first 7 games in 2016) for the last 3 years. It's hardly a glowing cV, is it?
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