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| Quote: The All New Chester Wire "Tonight should be thrilling TV.'"
I expect crap TV. All three basically supporting the war in Afghanistan, but competing over who can pay the most lavish insincere tribute to the armed forces. Then they will argue about who would put in the most money into the war effort, have a go at Gordon Brown about lack of helicopters, Brown will say we will continue to do everything we can to support the troops, they've had everything they need, the others will say well I've got a quote from Major General Butterworth-Smythe saying that the army didn't get helicopters in time, Brown will just repeat that they have had everything they need.
Nobody will talk about the real issue, ie what is the point of fighting a spurious war.
Then there might be a bit of chat about the Euro, all three parties will claim they are the party who would be in Europe but not ruled by Europe, their policies would see Britain "take a lead" in Europe. Heard it all before.
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| Worst Kraftwerk gig ever.
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| I've seen better finals of 15-to-1.
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| Give it to this bloke;
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| I am I the only one who finds this insincere TV farce a little unnerving? It seems like 'we can't to the uninterested voters via the press, so we will saturate them via TV' whilst all the time not discussing their actual policies.
I can picture it now "ooh, look at his nice teeth, I'll vote for him"
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1883.jpg Didn't William Webb Ellis pick up the ball and run, someone should really tell Rugby Union.
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| I am I the only one who finds this insincere TV farce a little unnerving? It seems like 'we can't to the uninterested voters via the press, so we will saturate them via TV' whilst all the time not discussing their actual policies.
I can picture it now "ooh, look at his nice teeth, I'll vote for him"
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| Quote: getdownmonkeyman "I am I the only one who finds this insincere TV farce a little unnerving? It seems like 'we can't to the uninterested voters via the press, so we will saturate them via TV' whilst all the time not discussing their actual policies.
I can picture it now "ooh, look at his nice teeth, I'll vote for him"'"
I don't think you are the only one. I remember reading exactly the same somewhere esle before.
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| I thought Cameron was the best performer tonight and fully expected him to be heading the polls, but other than the Yougov one which had him marginally ahead, the others have had Brown or even Clegg who I thought was hesitant tonight, ahead, which suggests to me that a lot of people had made up their minds they weren't going to give Cameron a chance however well he did. I think he might be shafted now because if the Conservative polls don't pick up after his confident performance it will just say that there is a groundswell of keep-Dave-out amongst the public.
Despite the Tory press championing him and trying to put the knives in Clegg, Cameron is on the rough end of the public stick with all the internet jokes and posters going round making fun of him, this is the problem with being an Etonian, the majority of the public will be resentful and want to put him down.
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The first ones in line for that pie-in-the-sky
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| Quote: getdownmonkeyman "I am I the only one who finds this insincere TV farce a little unnerving? It seems like 'we can't to the uninterested voters via the press, so we will saturate them via TV' whilst all the time not discussing their actual policies.
I can picture it now "ooh, look at his nice teeth, I'll vote for him"'"
Someone said to me the other day she felt like voting Tory because she liked David Cameron. She had no interest in politics, she was obviously taken in by his youth and non-answers.
It's a bit sad that politics has been reduced to some reality tv talent competition-esque circus.
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| It has always been like that. The largest number of votes ever cast for a winning party in a UK General Election was for John Major's Conservatives in 1992. How many of those voters had scrutinised the Tory manifesto and how many just saw Major against Kinnock and thought it's Major every time.
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12937_1277989655.jpg We're the first ones to starve, we're the first ones to die
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| And Blair, obviously.
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| The next time we have a TV debate this is what we should do.
[i1. Make it 3.5 hours long, have 1 a week the last 4 weeks up to the election.
2. Make it fair for all parties, have the top 6 Political party leaders in the debate (unfortunately, yes, Nick Griffin too)
3. Make it Similar to question time in that the crowd can boo and clap and shout but unlike question time they all have a fixed amount of time to answer the question which can't be interrupted by the other leaders.[/i
This sterile nonsense is both unfair and soulless and removes the politicians from the public by not allowing [ius[/i to take them to task.
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| Quote: Wire_Yed "
2. Make it fair for all parties, have the top 6 Political party leaders in the debate (unfortunately, yes, Nick Griffin too)
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On what basis are you defining the top 6 parties? I could live with a system whereby those who polled 5% in the last General Election had a place at the table, but not based on opinion polls or local election results.
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| Quote: The All New Chester Wire "On what basis are you defining the top 6 parties? I could live with a system whereby those who polled 5% in the last General Election had a place at the table, but not based on opinion polls or local election results.'"
Base it on candidates standing in the majority of each constituency, so no raving looney party but parties like
1. Tories
2. Labour
3. Lib Dems
4. UKIP
5. Greens
6. BNP
maybe more than 6 ?
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