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Christ give the lad time.

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hmm he's been knocking around a few years now though to make a judgement.
I hope under Smith he flourishes but from what I've seen over the last 3 or 4 years, I don't think he's got it to be a top class centre.

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Quote: Dico "If King was so quick he wouldn't have been caught by an ageing hooker in Malcolm Alker over 60/70 metres'"


Quick enough to skin Peter Fox though.

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Which one are you making reference to? If it's the one i'm thinking of Fox had to turn and go whereas King was already on the go.
The other day proved perfectly that King, well, isn't that quick. Either that or he's knackered from all the tackling/driving when he's been put away. I'm thinking its the former though

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I think it's the one in the Cc quater finals last year King easily outpaced Fox and gave it to Clarke to touch down.

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That's the one I meant, he was already motoring whereas Fox was flatfooted from the backdoor pass from Bridge, then had to turn and chase.
If King is quicker than Peter Fox I'm the pope's aunt

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Flat out speed I'd say Chris Riley would have it whilst Kevin Penny is playing in the "unders". BUT..... flat out speed doesnt always count in RL. The reason Atkins scored against Salford and "scored" against Wakefield is that he caught the opposition flat footed. A Salford defender was catching Atkins on Friday inspite of running diagonally across the pitch. Another factor is well is that physically the player carrying the ball is at a disadvantage to a chasing player who's actually sprinting.

I remember Des Drummond giving Martion Offiah a 20 yars head start and still catching him when Offiah was considered uncatchable in a straight line.....(he was crap if you stuck defenders in front of him though!)

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That is true, as I mentioned slightly with the King thing too, it all depends on how physically tired you are. Wingers also do a workload and if you're shattered you can't sprint to your full potential.
Riley's been caught a few times by slower opposition but I know he's very, very fast; simply that he wasn't as fit a few years ago. These days I find it unlikely you'd see Riley run down from behind

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atkins showed pace against salford to go the length and beat the fullback and he is no slouch but i think you are all forgetting that penny is there dont think hes very gud tho lol icon_wink.gif

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mozza after today

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Its Rhys Williams acording to Tyke McCarthy .

twitter.com/TykeMc
Its Rhys Williams acording to Tyke McCarthy .

twitter.com/TykeMc


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Quote: mikey123 "i would puyt hicks up there did 100m in 10 seconds in australia i think good pace (if i am wrong bout the 100m timing soz just seen it ages ago think it round there)'"




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Quote: pedro17 "rubbish'"



Clocked at around 10.55 seconds.

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Quote: mcfc/wire "Its Rhys Williams acording to Tyke McCarthy .


built like a prop as well... well legs like one anyway.

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Quote: mikej "
I remember Des Drummond giving Martion Offiah a 20 yars head start and still catching him when Offiah was considered uncatchable in a straight line'"


If Dessie was that fast he would have smashed all of Bevan's records, and Usain Bolts as well. Besides if he had hit anyone front on in a tackle he would have killed them, it would have been like being rammed by a hippo.

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