Our deficiencies were all there to see yesterday.

A huge improvement on last season but our halves are nowhere near as good as Catalans’, our size strength and pace in the pack is nowhere near as good as Catalans’...

And our back row has got no attacking game about them at all. What did Livett and Hughes bring to the game with the ball in hand? What do they ever? Westwood seems to make good hard runs but he’s not a prop, he’s the loose and he has no passing game about him at all.

Catalans have better players than us in almost all departments. The better team deservedly won and we have a lot to do to this team.

Our 8 game winning streak all came against lower sides in the table bar Castleford at the time. And that run has scued the view of how good we are.

As a neutral it was a great game to watch, utterly captivating viewing. In the second half momentum swung back and to like two tired fighters throwing everything they've got as they stagger around the ring on their last legs.

Obviously because you've lost there is a post-mortem being carried out and a lot of posts like the one above mine are very dismissive of the side and it's qualities. You had more than enough talent on show to win that game. Even with minutes to go, the game was there for the taking. You just panicked, completely bottled it. You were trying to score off every play when a bit of composure would have been enough. The best examples of that were Ratchford's pass to Lineham which cut out about three players when you had a five on three overlap. Just run and pass, simple try. Another was when you were camped on the line and Lineham tries to slide over on the outside on the first tackle and it was just never on.

I think resolving that issue is the difference between Warrington being ultra competitive next year or next year being just another year. Blake Austin is a fine player, but he's another who shoots from the hip. Patton isn't showing any signs of turning into that player either.

Worst final performance I can recall by a Warrington side. They did not simply have the desire or commitment of Catalan and unfortunately most of our key players went AWOL during the game. Maybe they were injured, maybe they lacked the desire or maybe they're just not good enough to break down opposition defences. Whatever the reason, it needs sorting, otherwise we're going to be experiencing many more of these depressing post cup final Sundays.

Given what he said at half time and after the game, it will be interesting to see how Price deals with the players not following the game plan. Was it the team as a whole or just certain players ? Unfortunately we might never know, as we dont know how things went in training.

Ridiculous to suggest they lacked the desire. Some combination of Catalans being better on the day, Roberts/Brown playing as they have most of the year (i.e. with little imagine action or flair), Ratchford and Clark both being very quiet, overall every player (bar T King) playing a little below their norm. All adds up to a defeat. Life's not long enough to dwell on it - Hull will come up very quickly.

The best game I've seen at Wembley in years....just that we lost.

Good post Saddo.
I think the "shoot from the hip" to some degree is what we need. We are still a bit pedestrian in attack invariably ending a set with a kick and hope. Hopefully Austin will add a bit of "surprise and danger" to our attacking play.

Let down by key players yesterday.
Ratchford, Brown and Roberts all taking the wrong options when in good positions........ these are experienced players who we rely on.

Also looked as though Clarke had an injury.

Another concern is our centres. We have 2 really good wingers who could score tries for fun but we don't have the centres that do them justice. Atkins, King and Goodwin just don't look like putting a decent pass in between them.

I think we have got to give catalans credit for most of our players being quiet. They made it very, hard for us. Their pack beat our pack, although our pack went OK, our halves really didn't control field position at all.

Watched this on TV this morning and actually it came across that we played better than I saw live.

Well done Cats. You deserved to win.

We had more than enough chances to win but simply didn't deserve to.

We made far too many basic errors.
Halves both had poor games.
Patton not finding touch.
Goodwin tackling the jumper mid air.
Ratch throwing a miss out pass to Lineham when Livett was the right option. (I dont fully blamehim for not taking the first bomb - he had no support around him and 3 Cats players).
Lineham positioning for the 1st try and going out on tackle one.
Roberts clean break and then panicking with a stupid pass.
BMM stupid offload.
3 good kicks all game.
Panic footy all match.
Not taking our chances.
Even with this lot it was still far better than watching live.

Well done Toby / George King and - apart from the obstruction - Joe Philbin.

My brother said after the game "We should have won but didn't deserve to". We all were like 'er that doesn't make any sense', but on reflection, I see what he meant, and your post reinforces this.

I think Goodwin is a bit of class. He can pass OK but any centre would have found it hard yesterday.

Lack of quality at fullback and in the halves cost us, coupled with lack of composure at times.

Ratchford in the first half drops a mediocre kick, this leads to a try. He then makes a pathetic attempt at a tackle for their scoot from dummy half, another try. Chooses the wrong option in attack costing us potentially another try. And the only reason people are calling BMM a bad offload is because Ratchford wasn't alert to it whatsoever, should be taking that pass every day of the week.

All these mistakes set the trend for the game. Roberts lacks the class needed in the final third for the wage he will be recieving, I think Austin will be a big improvement next year.

I actually though our forwards did ok against a decent and motivated catalans pack, we were certainly in positions to score tries, just stupid mistakes e.g Lineham going into touch, drop balls and wrong options near there line is what cost us.

The players let's themselves down to a degree. They know it, and I think so much that it just has won us the GF.

Livett has a particularily poor game. Hand responsibility in two of their tries. Then again all were below par.