would you like a Now TV box configured with a 12 month sports package to go with that TV?

It is a good job the Wigan Academy knows how to produce players otherwise we would be struggling in key positions.

Is that now Brown, Russell, Ratchford, Crosby, Currie and Hughes?

Looking at the squad it looks like another season of failure to me.

"outdone on retention" could have been an offer of e.g. £80k salary by both clubs, but Wire offering a 4yr deal whilst Wigan offering only 2yrs. So it was not at all pedantic, I was just trying to clarify.

We could do as well as any team in SL with the team we seem to be settling for. Quality throughout the league is not great & the team that does well could just be the best of a bad bunch.

The Brown signing and the rumoured £100k just shows the mess snake Sandow left is in in. But it's total desperation and we'll no doubt end up with him and Gidley sat in the stand at the same time

Yet another nearly season looming

Just another drop in quality looming this season, and the whole of SuperLeague continues to decline in quality. The sport will be back part time before you know it

The boring rugby we ended up playing at the end of the season, will no doubt continue, reliant on Clark and a winger who's not a winger scoots from dummy half.

The crowds will begin to vote with their feet and drift away

We're doooooomed!
Happy Jack or what? Cheer up ... please.

Us and the sport as a whole are on an ever increasing downwards spiral. The quality served up last season was average at the very best. The sheer dearth in quality highlighted in 4 nations

If you're happy with Kevin Brown as any type of solution, then your happy with the mediocrity of this league and this team.

Each to their own hey

I'm lost, not for the first time...Was RD having a go at me AFTER I admitted my misreading of his post?

I suppose you're right. Then there's Trump, Brexit and global warming. Don't get me going on ball tampering ... oh and flamin' Christmas. I may not be leaping up and down with excitement but I can understand why Kevin Brown was signed. It's to do with being short of half-back options at the start of the season.

So do you think that blowing rumoured £100k on a stop gap is sensible, not for me, would rather have thrown £100k at Wakey for Miller and even that would have had me underwhelmed

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Quoting yourself?...
You must be fed up,
W/O has a 22" he could put your way allegedly. If it wasn't breaking forum code.
Or since we're talking mediocrity lately, you can always hold out for the wooden nose.

This has left weird way behind...

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Really????

Failure - LLS winners and runners up in the other 2 comps.

Try sod all for most of the 90s and 00s.

Pack has been strengthened.
Backs the same as last year but with Toby K more experienced.
Gidley and Dec were a good pair when they played.

We will miss Sandow. Until injured he was virtually unplayable. Can't understand those who say he only played a couple of good games for us.

Losing Currie and Ratch is a blow also.

Others have strengthened well so I doubt we'll do as well as last season but I can still see us being in a shout for silverware in 2017. "

Looking at the squad it looks like another season of failure to me.'"

Trouble is the club had half an inkling this may happen as "they were not surprised", this implies they considered it would. So was there mitigation and planning for this eventuality? Did we seek reassurances before the "first day back" date that he would appear? Or was the "not surprised" really a throwaway comment and they were indeed surprised and left scrabbling around in the left luggage for a Louis Vuitton only to find an ASDA bag for life.