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| Quote: Barbed Wire "The thing for me with this, when we (albeit very rarely) broke from the “structure” and “percentage” play of Price, often late in a game when it was gone, this was pointed to be a player led style change, moving away from the instructions of the coach.
Now, it’s difficult to see whether the comeback/strong starts are player led or coach led, and when the capitulation comes, whether that is a player(s) have moved away from the brief and let down the system or whether the system itself has failed the players.
Price, to his credit, got the players playing a clear and identifiable style. I didn’t like it, didn’t agree with it as a paying fan, but it was evident. I can’t see that same following of clear instruction or clear instruction being given by this regime.
Caveat as always, bad apples, them’s the breaks, injuries, grumpy fans…'"
Really agree with everything here. It certainly isn't obvious what our structures are supposed to be. I'm just hoping that it is down to squad changes because I'll be suing Powell for making me look a right plonker on here if it isn't!
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| You might as well start instructing your solicitors now
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| Quote: Superblue "The 3 season plan
Actually put a post up on another thread a couple of weeks and it was basically this.
Unless the beginning of next season is a complete disaster then Powell isn't going anywhere.
It's no coincidence that the new signings brought in for next season have all got 2 year deals - next year is Powell's team being given time to bed in. I'd expect play off qualification to be expected, but for no great pressure on them to deliver any prizes. As long as genuine improvement is shown, then Powell will still be here at the end of 2023 and into 2024, where success will be a minimum and will be where Powell will be ultimately judged.
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| Quote: Bernie Teeth " As for his diddy sidekick Ryan Sheridan, get him working on the waltzers where he belongs, useless tramp.
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Made me chuckle.
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| Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "Actually put a post up on another thread a couple of weeks and it was basically this.
Unless the beginning of next season is a complete disaster then Powell isn't going anywhere.
It's no coincidence that the new signings brought in for next season have all got 2 year deals - next year is Powell's team being given time to bed in. I'd expect play off qualification to be expected, but for no great pressure on them to deliver any prizes. As long as genuine improvement is shown, then Powell will still be here at the end of 2023 and into 2024, where success will be a minimum and will be where Powell will be ultimately judged.'"
You may be right but I don't get this "bed in" stuff. I've also never know a coach get such a free ride for 2 seasons.
Lohan Smith didn't need a bed in period and I bet Leeds win a GF again before us.
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| This complete rebuild stuff is just smoke and mirrors. Powell is a snake oil salesman and if he’s here for 3 seasons then god help this rugby club.
Maybe a 70 point kicking by Salford could hopefully see an early demise but I’m just hoping.
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| One thing for sure is that if anyone buys a season ticket for this shower next season they have no grounds for complaint because everyone can see it coming a mile away.
If we were making progress we would see green shoots by now but there are absolutely none. I fear he doesn't know how to fix it.
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| 12 games. Whoever is coach a team with so many new faces you would expect and allow for the players to gel. I wouldn't expect to much in the early rounds bur they should be getting it together by the mid point of the season.
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| 12? You’re a glutton for punishment Gary
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| I just don't know what Powell can do in the off season that he hasn't been able to do in the last few months - even the new players who should be busting a gut for their new employers look staid and disinterested.
We won the first three in 2022. If we win the first three in 2023 does that mean we've turned the corner and he's off the hopk? Not unless we've played Wigan, Saints and Catalans.
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| The saving grace is the new pack will outweigh anyone, and should steamroll most. That’s not a given for success, but it absolutely must guarantee top 4. Before anyone jumps on the entitlement bandwagon, it’s what they’re paid for
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| I would agree with most of what has been said. 6 games should be enough to at least see where we are. There are a few things that I'd personally be quite strict on for those 6 games:
- Having the dominant forward pack every game
- Average of 24 points scored, or better (equal to Smith and Price)
- Average of 20 points conceded, or better (equal to Smith and Price)
- No losses unless it's to a recognised Top 4 team, but must be a competitive performance
- No losses from winning positions of 12+
- Being outplayed when we have an extra man (this one annoys the hell out of me, how are we worse whenever we are a man up?)
- Mata'utia pass to his winger (optional, as may be far fetched)
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| Emporer's new clothes
He needs to go, now, and take everything he brought from Cas with him and never come back.
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| Ratch at 6 and Matautia at 3 will be the death of Powell
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| I have a theory (based purely on wishful thinking) that the Club brought Powell in as a stalking horse. Get him to clean out the squad, act as a lightning rod for all the dissatisfaction and sack him off in the close season.
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