Unbelievably slow at the ptb, and not always the best handler of a ball. I now await the announcement that Gary Wheeler's contract will not be renewed.

Englands departure should be good news as presumably we would not have let him go if we didn't have another prop lined up.

So any more teddy bears you want to get rid of?

Giants fans weren't that full of praise for Mullally when he came to us but he has been outstanding and will be great for Leeds imho. Wonder whether a new club will do England good.


Thought Rhys Evans was the next big thing but he doesn't seem to be in with much of a shout these days. Can we have him too?

Daniel Murray who is moving from the U19s to the U23s may have a chance of staking a claim for the senior squad as prop cover.

You can for me. Just don't see the fascination with Rhys.

We need to sign another prop or we will √0 again in 2016.

so props for next year are
hill
sims
dodds
Harrison
evans
king
julien
and possibly murray.

king is more of a backrower, harrison has that op ? over him.

Its still looking pretty thin

Julien has been playing centre although he can play prop. But yes, it is still looking thin - we need another out and out Troll.

I thought you said Murray didn't wan't to sign for us next year ?

Hill - he is what he is
Dodds - probably have those first year issues, hope he doesn't but he's unknown
Sims - for me not a prop more of a mobile Trent Waterhouse
Harrison - as mobile as an oil tanker, great defensively but injuries could play a part
Westwood - not sure a move up front would suit, but maybe a short term filler

These guys are young lads and learning their trade and not for weekly combat in SL
Evans
King
Julien
Philbin - as he matures he will be a prop
and possibly Murray.

Overall we are extremely light in the front row, therefore a prop is a must

Got to agree another prop needs to be signed to replace England, surely we must have one lined up, England out of the championship and still in SL the very best of luck to the lad.

From what little I've seen of Murray he looks to have some ability but a few years off a regular first team spot.

We needed a prop whether England stayed or not, he simply wasn't at our level.
Just hoarding attic stock. He'd never get a game.

Are we filling from the top again now?

Myler out, Sandow in
O'Brien out, Gidley in
Monaghan out, Lineham in
Asotasi out, Dodds in
Grix out, Hughes in

Much difference?

Has Julien replaced Bridge ?

Had England stayed he would have probably got a game at some point due to the lack of numbers and being paid, ask Roy, for whatever reason it didn't work out for England.

As for our level well it's not very high at the moment is it so if you are saying we need to aim higher I agree with you 100%, I would also go along with you we needed a prop regardless so perhaps two new props to come.