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How can Hodgeson losing the ball backwards be a knock on and TBF Leuluai knocked it out and it went forwards off him Delaney was offside so it's a no brainer penalty for offside or reaping the ball in a two man tackle ! Which ever way u look at it , it wasn't a Leeds scrum !

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Quote: Who are ya!! "Finally someone picked up on that, yes it should of been there was no knock on anywhere in the build..'"


Hahaha after watching it again I was thinking Why on earth has that not been mentioned on here, there was absolutely nothing wrong with it and had we gone 12 - 0 up that early it could have become a blowout scoreline.

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Quote: PADDERS "How can Hodgeson losing the ball backwards be a knock on and TBF Leuluai knocked it out and it went forwards off him Delaney was offside so it's a no brainer penalty for offside or reaping the ball in a two man tackle ! Which ever way u look at it , it wasn't a Leeds scrum !'"


100% correct

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Quote: PADDERS "How can Hodgeson losing the ball backwards be a knock on and TBF Leuluai knocked it out and it went forwards off him Delaney was offside so it's a no brainer penalty for offside or reaping the ball in a two man tackle ! Which ever way u look at it , it wasn't a Leeds scrum !'"


It was the correct decision....Hodgson lost the ball during the impact of the challenge, it was not a steal. The laws of the game state it is upto the ball carrier to carry the ball securely into the tackle, Hodgson didn't....Leuluai did knock on once the ball was loose, so the offside didn't even come into it.

I suppose you could be ultra-picky and say Hodgson lost it backwards, meaning it should have been a Wire scrum, but to be fair, in a situation like that, a ball carrier losing the ball will more often than not be judged to have knocked on....Hodgson had his lights knocked out, so it wasn't really a knock on, more his unconscious body releasing the ball involuntarily.

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Quote: wiretilidie08 "Hahaha after watching it again I was thinking Why on earth has that not been mentioned on here, there was absolutely nothing wrong with it and had we gone 12 - 0 up that early it could have become a blowout scoreline.'"


Watching it again this morning the ball goes back first and then bounces forward, so I think it should have been given. It should have been sent to the video ref for a check anyway.

We should have received a not square penalty a few minutes from half time, so a penalty goal there at least. As it was Leeds went down field and then got a 2 pointer.

We'll just let Mr Grumpy be bitter about that 1 definite no try.

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[b:33tg3xj5]Me:[/b:33tg3xj5] I'm still reeling from the news that someone is considering watching the 1st and 3rd game on Saturday and NOT watching Warrington play. It's like being in Shea Stadium when the Beatles came to town and deciding to nip out for a fag. [b:33tg3xj5]knockersbumpMKII:[/b:33tg3xj5] Is it FOOK, you're good but you're not THAT good, jesus you wanky fans need to get over yourselves, Beatles at the Shea in '65 was a once in a lifetime opportunity for some (despite the following years performance), you can watch a very good team in primrose & yellow play every week if you really wanted to but comparing it to one of the very best music groups of all time in an iconic stadia such as the shea is overegging your importance, you're not even the best team in SL atm:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50086.jpg



Hodgson knocked on, which was complete when it hit Leulai. Leulai knocked it forward and Delaney was in front of him when he did. Never a try in a million years and correct decision was made.

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Quote: Ian 77 Redux "Hodgson knocked on, which was complete when it hit Leulai. Leulai knocked it forward and Delaney was in front of him when he did. Never a try in a million years and correct decision was made.'"



Spot on - my view exactly.
Fair play to Hodge for saying it was a perfectly legal challenge.

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Quote: PADDERS "How can Hodgeson losing the ball backwards be a knock on and TBF Leuluai knocked it out and it went forwards off him Delaney was offside so it's a no brainer penalty for offside or reaping the ball in a two man tackle ! Which ever way u look at it , it wasn't a Leeds scrum !'"



Wow hodgeson Knocked on it was not ripped out it was a tremendous hit there is then a second knock on and delaney picks the ball up runs and puts ball over the line.

The VR is required sees what happens first offence hodgeson knock on. Now as leeds had just scored or without VR looked like they had surely they were the attacking team no?

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Quote: Dezzie_D_Wireledgend "Wow hodgeson Knocked on it was not ripped out it was a tremendous hit there is then a second knock on and delaney picks the ball up runs and puts ball over the line.

The VR is required sees what happens first offence hodgeson knock on. Now as leeds had just scored or without VR looked like they had surely they were the attacking team no?'"


I think 'scrum defence' was given since Leeds were the defending side prior to the first knock on by The Hodge, which is what the call was made on and what set off the 'chain of events'. The fact that Leeds came out on the attack is irrelevant, that is what happens with most calls like this; a team goes from defence to attack or vice-versa as a result of an incident that needs to be looked at.

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I've never understood why they don't just put 'Scrum Warrington' or 'Scrum Leeds' up instead of 'Scrum attack/defence', it would make things a lot more simple.

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Quote: sir adrian morley "totally echo those sentiments ste.took my lad for the 1st time and he really enjoyed the day.no trouble and the leeds we spoke to were a real credit to there club..again a fantastic day one that will live long in the memory...p.s thanks for everything yesterday ste well organised and had a real laugh especially young charlie leading the singing..stroll on grand final
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Quote: garyhulsefan "I've never understood why they don't just put 'Scrum Warrington' or 'Scrum Leeds' up instead of 'Scrum attack/defence', it would make things a lot more simple.'"


They might as well put 'Possession to Warrington' or 'Possession to Leeds' icon_wink.gif

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Quote: garyhulsefan "I've never understood why they don't just put 'Scrum Warrington' or 'Scrum Leeds' up instead of 'Scrum attack/defence', it would make things a lot more simple.'"


Because they only have one machine and it cant cope with being reprogrammed with the names of the playing teams each game. Don't worry, come next season SKY will have developed 3D technology that will allow the play to be superimposed on the pitch during the live game including measure graphics and GPS on the ball but we will all need special (expensive) glasses to see it.
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Well done indeed. Thought we were lucky to be still in the hunt at HT. Our pack was just so weak that the real talent in the Rhinos team (our young Three-quarters) never had a chance to show what they can do. It was men against boys, although Peacock deserves credit. Our kicking game was pathetic (always easily read by Brett H) and yours was good. Generally a very poor game and I wish the Rhinos could have at least pushed the Wolves to at least make them fight for the trophy instead of the stroll it turned out to be.

Nice to see the Pies are as quick as ever to put the boot in to us. If we are so mediocre then what can you say for the team that was swept aside in the semi?

Would love to see Wire or Saints (or Leeds icon_lol.gif ) stuff the Pies in the play-offs or final.

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