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Quote: Fletcher ender "I've been watching Eastmood, Wheeler, Tomkins and Myler for well over 8 years now at Junior levels with St Pats and Blackbrook etc.
Eastmood and Wheeler are streets ahead of the rest in terms of pace, brain power and the kicking game. They will both cause havoc for Saints for the next 10years as 6 and 7. The fb Johnny Lomax was also a class act at Orrell St James as a 7, so i think Saints will have lots of back-up as well.
Worrying thing is We have not got any halfbacks either in the reserves or the acadamey that come close to this lot in terms of a)pace or b) taking the line on.
Wire will have to buy in talent in this area for a good few years, hopefully Myler will be first.'"


Interestng post.
I dont tend to watch that much academy level these days, nice to hear a slightly different take on things

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Quote: sally cinnamon "our head of junior development and head coach have got a track record of doing just that at Leeds'"



noted, good response. time will tell

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Quote: mark_m "This opens again highlights the issue over why our youth development isn't producing the quantity and quality of players that St Helens are producing.'"

I think this year there has just been what teachers call a cohort of talent. It happens sometimes. We signed up seven from our academy this season (Wheeler and Eastmond, Smith and Moore were from earlier cohorts) and already all but Foster and Maginnis (whose name I can't spell) have played in the first team during a league match. I think they all got injured as a result, bar Lomax who I have to say is amazing. Given that he has three plates in his head, he tackles like a flippin demon, is very versatile and has a great rugby brain (as do both Eastmond and Wheeler).

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: Fletcher ender "I've been watching Eastmood, Wheeler, Tomkins and Myler for well over 8 years now at Junior levels with St Pats and Blackbrook etc.
Eastmood and Wheeler are streets ahead of the rest in terms of pace, brain power and the kicking game. They will both cause havoc for Saints for the next 10years as 6 and 7. The fb Johnny Lomax was also a class act at Orrell St James as a 7, so i think Saints will have lots of back-up as well.
Worrying thing is We have not got any halfbacks either in the reserves or the acadamey that come close to this lot in terms of a)pace or b) taking the line on.
Wire will have to buy in talent in this area for a good few years, hopefully Myler will be first.'"


Rubbish, Tomkins is quick as well and can read a game better than Eastmond and Wheeler. Lomax is the real star I have played against this guy and he is awesome, future GB star.

The future looks bright.

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All young players who should be playing international rugby now and in future years. I am sure there a few more but these are the ones I have seen the most of.

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Quote: odemwingie "Rubbish, Tomkins is quick as well and can read a game better than Eastmond and Wheeler. Lomax is the real star I have played against this guy and he is awesome, future GB star.

The future looks bright.

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All young players who should be playing international rugby now and in future years. I am sure there a few more but these are the ones I have seen the most of.'"


Add Harrison, Cooper and Mitchell to that list and yea it does look good

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Quote: odemwingie "Rubbish, Tomkins is quick as well and can read a game better than Eastmond and Wheeler. Lomax is the real star I have played against this guy and he is awesome, future GB star.

The future looks bright.

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Wheeler
Shenton
Roby
Graham
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Lomax
Farrell
Mossop

All young players who should be playing international rugby now and in future years. I am sure there a few more but these are the ones I have seen the most of.'"


But unfortunately wont be good enough to beat the aussies

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Eastmond is a very well rounded player. His electric pace and general confidence has allowed him to slot into the saints team in a number of positions out wide to get used to superleague. Whenever he's had the oppotunity at 7, however, he's jumped up in his level of performance. His organisation is good, his passing is slick and he's a constant threat with the ball in hand. His kicking game also seems pretty good. Also, after a couple of unsettling instances early on, he seems to have come to terms with the physicality of SL.

I've seen a lot less of tomkins, but what does strike me, in short, is that he's a bit of a - he's got that annoying bit of niggle that a [inasty[/i half back has. I expect him to turn out into a right canny player who the other fans will hate.

During the saints/wigan game at the JJB earlier this year, the level of all round skill displayed by both of the above in a tight physical game was outstanding.

If you look at the top, established, british scrum halves, you've got Long and Burrow, both of whom broke through on merit of their pace and evasion. In their early careers, their passing, kicking and organising ability was poor and something they've slowly leaned over the years (Long moreso than Burrow, but he had to because he's lost his pace).

Eastmond for sure has a much, much better half back's game than either of those two at the same age.

I've hardly seen Myler, but he's had the hardest job of them all and seems to be equitting himself very well. If he does move to wire it'll be very interesting to see how he goes.

Look out for Wheeler, though. He's going about his business, out of position, very well without any fuss - always strikes me as one of those who just [iknows how to play the game[/i. Classy.

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Quote: Offside Monkey "Eastmond is a very well rounded player. His electric pace and general confidence has allowed him to slot into the saints team in a number of positions out wide to get used to superleague. Whenever he's had the oppotunity at 7, however, he's jumped up in his level of performance. His organisation is good, his passing is slick and he's a constant threat with the ball in hand. His kicking game also seems pretty good. Also, after a couple of unsettling instances early on, he seems to have come to terms with the physicality of SL.

I've seen a lot less of tomkins, but what does strike me, in short, is that he's a bit of a lover - he's got that annoying bit of niggle that a [inasty[/i half back has. I expect him to turn out into a right canny player who the other fans will hate.

During the saints/wigan game at the JJB earlier this year, the level of all round skill displayed by both of the above in a tight physical game was outstanding.

If you look at the top, established, british scrum halves, you've got Long and Burrow, both of whom broke through on merit of their pace and evasion. In their early careers, their passing, kicking and organising ability was poor and something they've slowly leaned over the years (Long moreso than Burrow, but he had to because he's lost his pace).

Eastmond for sure has a much, much better half back's game than either of those two at the same age.

I've hardly seen Myler, but he's had the hardest job of them all and seems to be equitting himself very well. If he does move to wire it'll be very interesting to see how he goes.

Look out for Wheeler, though. He's going about his business, out of position, very well without any fuss - always strikes me as one of those who just [iknows how to play the game[/i. Classy.'"


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when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four..... ......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation...... big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on' [quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. :lol:[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [img:3gx4tjo6]http://www.rlfans.com/images/sigs/castigers.gif[/img:3gx4tjo6]:32116.jpg



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Rather have Tomkins than either myself.'"


Really? tomkins is a great young player but these two are the best young halfs coming through at the moment imho.

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Wasn't Luke Robinson the next great British halfback?

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when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four..... ......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation...... big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on' [quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. :lol:[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [img:3gx4tjo6]http://www.rlfans.com/images/sigs/castigers.gif[/img:3gx4tjo6]:32116.jpg



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Luke robinson is doing just fine, playing really well in a team third in the league. icon_moon.gif 3rd for now anyway.

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