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| Unless joseph Paulo is about to jump on a flight to manchester and will be ready to play on Thursday then I think we have a few weeks to sort it out.
No new injuries or suspensions from last night and after Thursday there is a 2 week gap then we play Wakey by which time Philbin will be back and possibly Bullock.
The international break will do a couple of players a bit of good to hopefully recharge the batteries.
Like Powell stated, has to be the right type of character and I would be happy to wait to ensure that we find the right type of player. We have rushed in to panic signings in the past.
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| Quote: Deus Dat Incrementum "Unless joseph Paulo is about to jump on a flight to manchester and will be ready to play on Thursday then I think we have a few weeks to sort it out.
No new injuries or suspensions from last night and after Thursday there is a 2 week gap then we play Wakey by which time Philbin will be back and possibly Bullock.
The international break will do a couple of players a bit of good to hopefully recharge the batteries.
Like Powell stated, has to be the right type of character and I would be happy to wait to ensure that we find the right type of player. We have rushed in to panic signings in the past.'"
No doubt we need to sign the right player, but the longer we leave it, the more strain there will be on the other props (and the rest of the squad) and that will begin to effect performance and results in the long term.
The aim is to get the likes of Vaughan and Kasiano through to the play offs as close to full fitness as possible. Right now, if it continues as it is, both will be finished in half a dozen games time.
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| Looking on the bright side ,there are still 7 or 8 teams that we should comfortably beat during the season so play off rugby should be a reality this year.
On the subject of suspensions ,it was mentioned before some of our players were signed that they could well be prolific penalty machines & spend quite a lot of time on the naughty step. Squads are too threadbare these days for any club to sign liabilities.
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| Assuming Harrison, Bullock and Philbin are back for Wakey, maybe a little longer for Bullock, we would be ok.
Vaughan
Walker/Clarke
Harrison
Currie
Nicholson
McGuire
Kasiano
Clarke/Walker
Bullock
Philbin
Or Minikin/Russell so that Matautia can do 2nd row
Or one of the youngsters
More important to get the right player, I think.
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| Well we have in recent days been linked with 4 possibilities, if any one of them is worth pursuing then get it done. My preference would be Tanginoa I’m just thinking have we enough money in the cap for him.
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| No we don't need to sign a prop immediately, getting one straight away would be nice but like it has been said, by the Wakefield game we'll be 2-3 props up again and 2 weeks later Dudson will be back. But we do need another for the longer term, the international break will give Vaughan and Kasiano a much needed break. Plus Thomas and Green are slowly being blooded so they are both still an option.
Does anyone know why Green played such little minutes? Was it just to protect him from too much too soon, or do you think Powell might have not thought he was up to more minutes?
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| It looks like the intention for Green was just to give him a bit of time to just experience super league level. Probably so that he will go away and work on aspects that he needs to.
At 18 that is an incredibly young age to debut at prop and has a few things to work on in defence but really good to sample that level and hopefully give him the hunger to improve so that the next time he plays he is more prepared.
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| If Mikaele had left at the end of 2022, then I would have been totally indifferent, but he's been a different player this year, both as a starting prop and off the bench. This feels like a bit of a hole to try and fill, and like Tom, we could recruit a young fringe NRL prop that takes time to find their feet. Bringing someone in during this season, may not necessary have the immediate impact that we need, and that can apply to more experienced and well known players as well. If the right player came available then happy days, but we could have to wait until 2024 to get the right replacement. It's a shame we've lost him, and feels like an important a loss as Greg Mackey was when he left for Hull, or maybe, I'm just getting carried away with his performances over the first seven games.
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| Quote: MorePlaymakersNeeded "If Mikaele had left at the end of 2022, then I would have been totally indifferent, but he's been a different player this year, both as a starting prop and off the bench. This feels like a bit of a hole to try and fill, and like Tom, we could recruit a young fringe NRL prop that takes time to find their feet. Bringing someone in during this season, may not necessary have the immediate impact that we need, and that can apply to more experienced and well known players as well. If the right player came available then happy days, but we could have to wait until 2024 to get the right replacement. It's a shame we've lost him, and feels like an important a loss as Greg Mackey was when he left for Hull, or maybe, I'm just getting carried away with his performances over the first seven games.'"
The difference between this season and last is that last year we needed a prop to come in, be a regular starter and basically hit the ground running - this time we need someone who can come in just to provide much needed depth to the squad, they won't necessarily make the 17 every week, but will provide adequate cover in games where we feel we can give Vaughan, and Kasiano a rest, or less time on the pitch during a game.
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| Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "The difference between this season and last is that last year we needed a prop to come in, be a regular starter and basically hit the ground running - this time we need someone who can come in just to provide much needed depth to the squad, they won't necessarily make the 17 every week, but will provide adequate cover in games where we feel we can give Vaughan, and Kasiano a rest, or less time on the pitch during a game.'"
With what we've seen from Harrison, Bullock, Philbin (and hopefully Dudson will provide more than he has done), do you not think we should have enough depth to rotate our props, even allowing for injuries and stupidity?
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| Quote: MorePlaymakersNeeded "With what we've seen from Harrison, Bullock, Philbin (and hopefully Dudson will provide more than he has done), do you not think we should have enough depth to rotate our props, even allowing for injuries and stupidity?'"
Has I pointed out in the opening post and from what we have seen so far this year, no, I don't think 7 props is enough.
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| I don't think we need to sign another prop - unless there is one at the level that would improve the team rather than just add numbers and do a job.
I expect numbers back after the Saints match, and possibly even Harrison at the Saints game. Not sure how Clark has made the team last week - shows he's prepared to go through the mill to help out in the short term.
I thought we had signed one too many forwards but now that Mikaele has gone (even though that has weakened the team) I'm ok with what we've got.
We were outgunned last weekend and this week will be another challenge without a doubt, but after that regardless of what anyone says it does become a bit easier and numbers come back.
We do need to give Vaughan a rest - we would have been in trouble if he had been one of the injured along with all of the others, but I genuinely believe we're through the worst.
Wakey are dreadful so maybe even though Vaughan may be in the 17, he may play a lot less minutes
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| Quote: fez1 "I don't think we need to sign another prop - unless there is one at the level that would improve the team rather than just add numbers and do a job.
I expect numbers back after the Saints match, and possibly even Harrison at the Saints game. Not sure how Clark has made the team last week - shows he's prepared to go through the mill to help out in the short term.
I thought we had signed one too many forwards but now that Mikaele has gone (even though that has weakened the team) I'm ok with what we've got.
We were outgunned last weekend and this week will be another challenge without a doubt, but after that regardless of what anyone says it does become a bit easier and numbers come back.
We do need to give Vaughan a rest - we would have been in trouble if he had been one of the injured along with all of the others, but I genuinely believe we're through the worst.
Wakey are dreadful so maybe even though Vaughan may be in the 17, he may play a lot less minutes'"
Vaughan will get a week off after the Saints game.
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| Quote: Or thane "No we don't need to sign a prop immediately, getting one straight away would be nice but like it has been said, by the Wakefield game we'll be 2-3 props up again and 2 weeks later Dudson will be back. But we do need another for the longer term, the international break will give Vaughan and Kasiano a much needed break. Plus Thomas and Green are slowly being blooded so they are both still an option.
Does anyone know why Green played such little minutes? Was it just to protect him from too much too soon, or do you think Powell might have not thought he was up to more minutes?'"
It was an intense, so not particularly the best game to bring him in, but his remit was little more than to buy Vaughany a ten min breather.
I saw him with his mam and dad after the game..,proud is the understatement for it how his mother was!
Please for them.
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| Quote: MorePlaymakersNeeded "With what we've seen from Harrison, Bullock, Philbin (and hopefully Dudson will provide more than he has done), do you not think we should have enough depth to rotate our props, even allowing for injuries and stupidity?'"
I agree with this approach for the time being. I think that we've enough cover as it is particularly if all we can get is a squad filler.
Yes we are down to the bare bones, but without putting the mockers on it things should start picking up. It's always a gamble bringing new blood in. Let's get everyone available or as close to it as we can over the next few weeks and see what we might need to (if anything) to reinforce and rejuvenate the squad at the business end of the season which may not be a prop.
Signing someone just for the sake of numbers looks a little bit knee jerk to me
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