Yes I agree. Obviously Wigan and Warrington are far better than everyone else in the league at the moment but until we have played one another a few more times we won't know who is the best. I am a loyal Wigan fan but I know we would not do to you what we have done to st Helen's and Leeds - you are far far better.
Some very good games coming up between us I think!!!

Cc final and grand final fingers crossed

one with sense..you are welcome on here any time mate,unlike some we can mention

"Who can stop them?" Saints can't. Leeds can't. Huddersfield can't. They're playing Catalans away next week, they might put up a fight.

Widnes? Warrington?

We beat Wigan when we were playing awfully, God help them when we're on form.

And don't forget Phil's getting paid for all this.

I think we are awesome this year, it must be said!! I think it is a Two horse race as i can only see Warrinton as a team on par with us!! Warrington Vs Wigan in both finals would not suprise me at all! Fingers crossed

I think right now Wire and Wigan are the best two teams, this time last year i said the same things, final............. Saints v Leeds

So until we get or win a final i'm saying nothing more on the subject.

Bet you do.

I thought the league and cup had Wigan or Wire written all over them last season but after we took the cup out both of us got burned in the play offs.

I'd be stunned if the league leaders shield, the challenge cup and the grand final trophy aren't all sitting in either ours or your trophy cabinets come mid October this time though.

We look very good yet your right on our tails whilst holding plenty back and will really step it up now. There's going to be some stunning Wigan vs Wire battles in the rest of 2012.

Can't disagree with any of that, apart from your grammatical errors of course.

dont forget in 2009 wigan and saints were favs to win there semis what happened both favs got well and truely dumped out...leeds will come back stronger from tonights mauling, and hudds seem to be going off the boil...its what makes our game so unpredictable,so im going for a wire leeds final

been very impressed with wigan this year... an excellent team with strength in depth all over the park.

be a close call come end the end of the season.... were both excellent sides.

The pies are playing well and they are the form side ripping teams like we were last season. They appear to have progressed since last season whereas the jury is out on us....we're doing OK but not looking as sure as we were a year ago in our performances.

Interesting question is why are Wigan better than us?

Is it because they have a better squad of players?

Or are they better coached?

id say they are better coached than last year,,under mcguire they were niggle niggle niggle..this season they are much faster in the tackle and to release and much faster at the ptb..there are still the odd little moment but that happens with most teams,just hope they blow themselves out by the time we meet the so and so`s next..which i believe they will

Nothing as complicated as you suggest Sally.

Confidence plays a big part, will they suffer from blowing away teams like we did last year? We got caught out as we hadn’t had enough close games last year, and I think we paid the price. TS learnt from 'that game' and told some of our players to be below par at the start of the season, to make the games closer and therefore we have learned from those games. Remember; you can be the best team all season, and finish top of the league, but you win nowt for that.