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Quote: JWP "After playing 80 mins for the reserves yesterday, no.'"


I seem to remember a couple of players doing the same and starting on the bench the following day

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Quote: RAI of Sunshine "I seem to remember a couple of players doing the same and starting on the bench the following day'"


Not when they'd been out months.

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We aren't desperate to get him in the team. We shouldn't be looking to change the team for the sake of it anyway.

He is returning from injury, played 80m in the reserves, and should come into contention during the next fortnight IMO.

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Quote: JWP "Not when they'd been out months.'"


True.

It's good to see a new signing can't get a sniff of first team action.

Or is it?

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Quote: RAI of Sunshine "True.

It's good to see a new signing can't get a sniff of first team action.

Or is it?'"


Wouldn't class him as a new signing, more of a afterthought.

I can imagine the conversation with wigan went something like:

Wigan: £100k for Gleeson

Wire: Erm... not sure

Wigan: Ok, we'll throw Mathers in for free

Wire: Deal

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Quote: Jesus Of Suburbia "Wouldn't class him as a new signing, more of a afterthought.

I can imagine the conversation with wigan went something like

correct.

we didnt really want him. we took him to make the deal look better.

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Quote: Jesus Of Suburbia "Wouldn't class him as a new signing, more of a afterthought.

I can imagine the conversation with wigan went something like

Rubbish.

I bet as such, the deals were two seperate entities only linked by value, ie, Gleeson to Wigan, £100-120k, Mathers to Warrington £20k, knocked off the £120k, so just £100k. Had Mathers not joined Warrington, It wouldn't have impacted on the Gleeson transfer.

Obviously all values made up. If you think Smith would just 'take a player' that he's not too fussed about having, your daft. Everything he has done since his arrival has been about shaping this team to become 'his team'.

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Quote: JWP "Everything he has done since his arrival has been about shaping this team to become 'his team'.'"


does that include sidelining kev penny and ousting stuart reardon?

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Quote: RL Lover "does that include sidelining kev penny and ousting stuart reardon?'"


So Kevin Penny was playing regular football before Tony Smith took the helm?

As for Reardon, it was one of the best things Smith has done since he's been here.

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Quote: RL Lover "does that include sidelining kev penny and ousting stuart reardon?'"
Didn't Smith used to keep Burrows on the bench for Leeds when he was coach for a good while?

Smith knows how to bring the young lads through, and if Penny can't develop under sombody like him, well that's down to Penny.

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Quote: Dave T "Didn't Smith used to keep Burrows on the bench for Leeds when he was coach for a good while?

Smith knows how to bring the young lads through, and if Penny can't develop under sombody like him, well that's down to Penny.'"


after watching penny for the reserves yesterday i cant see him being in the first team for along time.

mathers didnt do much either. two passes that went straight into touch.he shouted alot. just back from an injury so needs to get abit of form back maybe.

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I agree re Mathers he didn't do much, expected more from someone of his standing. If you read Warrington Wolves website Mathers is supposed to have been outstanding. He must of been at a different game. He had a solid Performance as did alot of them. He did shout alot but to no effect, I realise he has just come back from an op, so don't want to appear too harsh and given time and if he earns his stripes he may well be an asset. But lets not say he was outstanding, when he wasn't. Riley is working hard and has shown some form and deserves his shirt.

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Quote: gogreen "I agree re Mathers he didn't do much, expected more from someone of his standing. If you read Warrington Wolves website Mathers is supposed to have been outstanding. He must of been at a different game. He had a solid Performance as did alot of them. He did shout alot but to no effect, I realise he has just come back from an op, so don't want to appear too harsh and given time and if he earns his stripes he may well be an asset. But lets not say he was outstanding, when he wasn't. Riley is working hard and has shown some form and deserves his shirt.'"


he was no way outstanding. i didnt even know he was on for the first ten mins.

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Don't see how Mathers can replace Riley at full back, with his two tries today, he deserves his place.
If only he could desist from causing chaos when the opposition kick the ball high and he can tend to get in the way.

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Quote: Richeastender "Don't see how Mathers can replace Riley at full back, with his two tries today, he deserves his place.
If only he could desist from causing chaos when the opposition kick the ball high and he can tend to get in the way.'"


If he is injured he will - Riley was limping @ the end of the match with his thigh iced up

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