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| I was waiting for one of these threads, just didn't want to start one myself.
In a nutshell Bradford were appalling, no communication, no organisation and certainly no leaders, it wasn't the same Bradford team that beat Leeds that's for sure and like i said on another thread the scoreline would have been different if that Bradford team had shown up.
We got the rub of the green in the first half and we scored some try's from them but like ive said before you can only beat what's in front of you.
The win should give the players some much needed confidence going into next Sundays game, Huddersfield will be a bigger challenge for me and we will see next week whether Warrington were really that good last night or Bradford were that bad.
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| Quote ="Wirefan"The way we went about our business at the start of the game contributed to Bradfords downfall. We got on top, they crumbled.
Much like us vs Quins.'"
Agreed....we were definitely well set-up, and as previously said, got the sniff of some blood.
However, I really was shocked just how poor Bradford were, both mentally and tactically....For this reason I'd be surprised if McNamara survives, as they were definitely an outfit that looked like they needed fresh impetus and a new man to kick some backside.
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| "We're going to give ourselves a bit of credit thanks very much" - Tony Smith
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| Quote ="pocket*trout"Why start another post. You said the same thing on a different post.'"
Maybe because its a thread where those of us who aren't primrose and blue blinkered, can possibly discuss the demise of a once decent side??.. ![Cool icon_cool.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_cool.gif)
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| You only have to look at Bradfords team to see why they are now as as us..
2005 Grand Final Winners
Bradford: Withers, L. Pryce, B. Harris, Hape, Vainikolo, I. Harris, Deacon, Fielden, Henderson, Peacock, Peacock, Johnson, Johnson, Meyers, Radford, Morley, Vagana, Langley.
against 2009
Bradford: Halley, Sheriffe, Sykes, Platt, Tadulala, Menzies, Jeffries, Lynch, Newton, Kopczak, Langley, Cook, Burgess.
Replacements: Scruton, Olbison, Solomona, Worrincy.
(add Deacon, Morrison)
The side is now gash, its as simple as.
Basically, they havent bothered replacing Hape, Peacock, Fielden, Vagana, L Pryce, Withers. Vanikolo, I Harris
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| Quote ="Wirefan"You only have to look at Bradfords team to see why they are now as poop as us..
2005 Grand Final Winners
Bradford: Withers, L. Pryce, B. Harris, Hape, Vainikolo, I. Harris, Deacon, Fielden, Henderson, Peacock, Peacock, Johnson, Johnson, Meyers, Radford, Morley, Vagana, Langley.
against 2009
Bradford: Halley, Sheriffe, Sykes, Platt, Tadulala, Menzies, Jeffries, Lynch, Newton, Kopczak, Langley, Cook, Burgess.
Replacements: Scruton, Olbison, Solomona, Worrincy.
(add Deacon, Morrison)
The side is now gash, its as simple as.
Basically, they havent bothered replacing Hape, Peacock, Fielden, Vagana, L Pryce, Withers. Vanikolo, I Harris'"
No wonder they took some beating two Peacocks and two Johnsons in the side! ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| They were absolutely terrible. It's the worst Bulls performance I think I've ever seen, they were that bad. Defensively all over the place and looked sluggish from minute one. We (Saints) play them next week. Happy days! ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| Quote ="Jesus Of Suburbia"Hoyle was on the pitch after the game
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We saw that as well. Looking to take some credit as usual. ![Rolling Eyes icon_rolleyes.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_rolleyes.gif)
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| Quote ="Blobbynator"They were absolutely terrible. It's the worst Bulls performance I think I've ever seen, they were that bad. Defensively all over the place and looked sluggish from minute one. We (Saints) play them next week. Happy days!
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I'm not suggesting that Bradford could beat you, or even run Saints close next week, but they can't be as bad as last night....surely?
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| Not seen a Bradfut team that bad in over 30 years. Remember they played wigan in a CC semi and got thrashed about 70-0. The difference between that day and last night is that Wigan were so dominant and could beat most team by a similar scoreline, whilst last night getting beat by a team second bottom at home takes the buscuit. Oh well makes up slightly for all those heavy defeats they have over us.
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| Quote ="The Angry Pirate"I'm not suggesting that Bradford could beat you, or even run Saints close next week, but they can't be as bad as last night....surely?'"
I imagine they'll be better next week, but Bradford are simply a poor side anyway. They've gone backwards every season since McNamara has been there. Time to go!
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| Quote ="Blobbynator"I imagine they'll be better next week, but Bradford are simply a poor side anyway. They've gone backwards every season since McNamara has been there. Time to go!'"
Certainly their recruitment as been terrible in recent years, but how much of this has been down to McNamara, or is it a simple case of him having his hands tied??....Maybe Noble jumping ship for Wigan wasn't just a case of a new challenge, but more that Noble could see what was coming??
Seems to me that McNamara is just a stooge in a crumbling empire??
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| Quote ="The Angry Pirate"Certainly their recruitment as been terrible in recent years, but how much of this has been down to McNamara, or is it a simple case of him having his hands tied??....Maybe Noble jumping ship for Wigan wasn't just a case of a new challenge, but more that Noble could see what was coming??
Seems to me that McNamara is just a stooge in a crumbling empire??'"
Although he was in their 2005 Grand Final winning side, I believe it was the signing of Iestyn Harris that led to the club's demise.
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| Ya know everytime we go to bradford i get jittery,
i always think we are going to be on the wrong end of a drubbing,
but last night made a change,yes bradford was poor,
but you can only beat what is in front of you...........
That first try after half time was like a scene out of "the keystone cops.".. ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Bradford seem to have a similar predicament with Paul Deacon as we have with Lee Briers.
If he plays he isn't as good as he was and gets abuse. If he doesn't play, there isn't anyone to put in a half decent kicking game for the team.
PS - Well done LB for the performance last night, rolling back the years
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| Quote ="The Angry Pirate"I don't want to detract from the Wire performance, as to score 58 against anybody is decent going, but I must say that the Bradford performance last night was as bad as any from a Super League side I can remember for a very long time.
Steve McNamara will be a very fortunate guy if he still has his job this time next week, as from what I could see last night, Bradford look like a side that as zero confidence, and zero faith in each other as a side.....Imagine if we'd ever put in such a heartless display in the last days of Cullen or Lowes??...There would have been riots on Tesco car park, and Lord Doug would never have made it home that night!!...
Watching a re-run in the cold light of day highlights just how bad Bradford were....The opening try of the second half is an obvious example, but on top of that there were numerous amateur style errors which contributed to their humiliation.
Giving Wire credit, they turned up well organised, sniffed a bit of blood, and ruthlessly exposed Bradford for the disorganised rabble they were, but again, not trying to lessen our acheivement, any decent, organised rugby side would have done similar to Bradford last night.'" or did we make em look bad???????
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| Quote ="the original stevo"or did we make em look bad???????'"
If that is the case, then there has been a lot of teams making them look bad
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| Quote ="Dawson"If that is the case, then there has been a lot of teams making them look bad'" get your point but nobody has put that many points on them and certainly not leeds
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| Only Warrington fans would push the angle of how poor the opposition were as oppose to crediting their team. I don't know how some folk on here get through life, tiny things must be a trauma, supa hot day,you buy a bloody can of coke, drink it, it quenshes your thirst, then look on the back,
'If you are not fully satisfied with this product, please write to the following address within 14 days'.
Dear Coca Cola,
I enjoyed my fizzy, bubble filled cola drink, but didn't feel fully satisfied. My dissatisfaction stems from the fact that I enjoyed the drink because I was thirsty, and not that the coca cola was refreshing. With this in mind, please refund my 52p to the following back account.
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| Bradford were very very poor, it would be ludicrous to suggest otherwise, but equally it was a very similar Bradford team to the one that beat Leeds and ran Wakey very close. I think it's right that we take a lot of the credit for destroying them at sOdall, but we shouldn't start thinking that we have 'turned the corner' and are going to start surging up the league.
IMO our next three league games (Hudds at home, Rovers in Edinburgh then Hull away) will give a far better indication of how much, if at all, we have improved.
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| Bradford were poor, we were good. That simple.
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| bradford were poor cos wire made them look poor ,they had no ball and no one knows how that feels more than us .lets give credit to the boys when we had the ball this week we put points on the board .we got in there faces and bashed them .they beat leeds last game so they not that bad eh .for god sake we won and played well sick of how bad they were and if they would have had this and that .warrington played realy well end of lets enjoy the moment ![Razz icon_razz.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_razz.gif)
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| I'm not one for stats, and I think its more of a term used in Tennis, but what was Bradford's 'unforced errors' total?...
Yes, you then have to capitalise on these errors, and we certainly did that well, but to those suggesting that it was our play that forced the errors might be a bit misleading.
That opening try of the second half was a classic example...it was 100% the fault of a Bradford cock-up and had balls-all to do with any Wire pressure.....Similarly, Hicks' hat-trick try, when one of their guys knocks on in junior school style, Briers picks up and feeds Hicks, and Bradford's defence parts like the Red Sea...
Yes, we jumped on their errors, but a lot of our points were gifted and required little effort to score.
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| Quote ="The Angry Pirate"
That opening try of the second half was a classic example...it was 100% the fault of a Bradford cock-up and had balls-all to do with any Wire pressure'"
I'd say 90% brainfart and 10% the wire chase and quick reactions of Higham to get to the ball first
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| Quote ="Jesus Of Suburbia"I'd say 90% brainfart and 10% the wire chase and quick reactions of Higham to get to the ball first'"
Quick reactions of Higham or the fact 5 Bradford players are looking like mongs wondering which 1 of them can be d to do something sensible, like simply ground the ball, or hammer the ball dead.
It was a complete joke, and if you saw that on any amateur rugby pitch you'd be wetting yourself at the sheer farcical nature of it all... ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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