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Quote: Wirefan "So if we safely say it's Price who's got the gig then what next. What happens to all the current background and support staff/coaches etc. Are they gone?

Who will be assistant? Surely Agar can't keep his job can he? Will price bring aussie staff over?

We have 9 players who have left. Massive rebuilding job on.'"


Dare say all that will form discussions with the new coach

However the biggest challenge for the club could be winning back it's demoralised fan base.

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Quote: Superblue "

However the biggest challenge for the club could be winning back it's demoralised fan base.'"


Indeed. The home average attendance once was ~11,500 in 2012, ~11,000* in 2016. Wiki has it as 10,478** for 2017 across 11 home games, with a large number of Season Ticket holders.


*Source www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyl ... guide.html
**Source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_League_XXII
Quote: Superblue "

However the biggest challenge for the club could be winning back it's demoralised fan base.'"


Indeed. The home average attendance once was ~11,500 in 2012, ~11,000* in 2016. Wiki has it as 10,478** for 2017 across 11 home games, with a large number of Season Ticket holders.


*Source www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyl ... guide.html
**Source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_League_XXII


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Quote: Wires71 "Indeed. The home average attendance once was ~11,500 in 2012, ~11,000* in 2016. Wiki has it as 10,478** for 2017 across 11 home games, with a large number of Season Ticket holders.


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And I bet those stats dropped off massively towards the end of the season, which Wiki above is missing.

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I am the eternal optimist. No news is good news right! I've been bathing in all this good news for weeks now.

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Quote: Superblue "Dare say all that will form discussions with the new coach

However the biggest challenge for the club could be winning back it's demoralised fan base.'"


The average gate for 2017 held up surprisingly well ( I thought) considering the difficult season we had - 10.5k vs 11k in 2016 when we got to the two finals. ST ticket holders who are a 'no show' in the seated areas are counted, but not in the standing areas, I understand. But I strongly suspect that the majority of people are holding off purchasing atm because they want some indication of intent from the club. So the pressure is now on KF to bring over a good quality name as coach and for the recruitment of a real star or two for the 2018 squad. If people see that my guess would be that they will happily re-sign. Trouble is...... will it happen ?

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Quote: Lord Tony Smith "They will more than likely all leave paving the way for Price to bring his own staff in, I'd have thought.

Let's look at it more realistically it's effectively 7 players leaving who should be leaving. The exceptions being Hiku and Saveilo.

I think we're a winger, halfback, prop and interchange nine short but the core of our team is still pretty good with the likes of; Ratchford, Lineham, Atkins, Hill, Clark, Currie, Cooper, Westerman, Westwood.'"


Lineham and Ratchford. Are you kidding?????

The first is an absolute waste of time, effort and space and the second a fancy Dan who flatters to deceive.

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Isn't Mr Smith still in charge till month end ? Maybe an announcement Monday morning.

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Could it be that the new coach is still involved (just) in the play offs - hence the delay?

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I'm disappointed in Lineham based on return on investment - £125k and there's no sign yet of that value based on performances.

Anyone with an ounce of RL knowledge knows Ratchford has class. The problem is that we've moved him around and given him too much responsibility in the halves as a key playmaker which he probably isn't. His rugby brain is generally spot on and his contribution from full back this season in the most blunt attack for years has made a difference.

Let's see what a new coach can do with them before we send them off for scrap. Ratchford would be a world-beater under Powell if he could nail down one position.

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PS I meant if Ratchford moved to Cas for example. Not suggesting Powell is coming here!

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Surely in the set up lee Briers still has to be involved to progress a future manager for the club, at Lear in the future we wouldn't have to pay lee over inflated Australian coach prises, so could spend more on the squad. He wages could be more bonus related on trophies the club won

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Agree with the Lineham assessment and would add that we must have spent more than £0.5M on him, Westerman, Clark and Brown with a less than satisfactory return. You expect players to dominate in games for that spend and it just doesn't happen. For all his ability and, as a former MOS, Clark has lacked consistency and deserves to lose his England squad place to Roby. Westerman has been pretty average all season which suggests he would be happier to return nearer home. Lineham's defence is woeful and just doesn't have the rugby nous to read a defensive play. No further comment needed for Brown.
Hopefully, Price's connections in Australia can give us a big improvement in recruitment and upgrade our Academy strength which is as important. Think we should give him a chance before glorying in criticising his appointment.

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Quote: 49er "Agree with the Lineham assessment and would add that we must have spent more than £0.5M on him, Westerman, Clark and Brown with a less than satisfactory return. You expect players to dominate in games for that spend and it just doesn't happen. For all his ability and, as a former MOS, Clark has lacked consistency and deserves to lose his England squad place to Roby. Westerman has been pretty average all season which suggests he would be happier to return nearer home. Lineham's defence is woeful and just doesn't have the rugby nous to read a defensive play. No further comment needed for Brown.
Hopefully, Price's connections in Australia can give us a big improvement in recruitment and upgrade our Academy strength which is as important. Think we should give him a chance before glorying in criticising his appointment.'"

That first paragraph is bang on for all concerned.
Clark has turned from MoS, to very good to Emporer's New Clothes, from the moment we signed him
Westerman fits that description too. He's not let us down.Just never hit his heights of yesteryear.
I'm not going to knock a try scorer (Lineham), bur when he's not using his strength, he's no better than a "trialist A N Other" from the A-team on a Friday night.
Brown lives up to his name. "pooh Brown". Scandalous that we paid 10 bob for him

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Quote: Hatfield Town Wire "Surely in the set up lee Briers still has to be involved to progress a future manager for the club, at Lear in the future we wouldn't have to pay lee over inflated Australian coach prises, so could spend more on the squad. He wages could be more bonus related on trophies the club won'"


How do you know Lee Briers will make a top quality coach? He needs to prove himself first.

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Quote: Wires71 "How do you know Lee Briers will make a top quality coach? He needs to prove himself first.'"


I don't think Hatfield Town Wire is saying anything about a top quality coach he is suggesting we could get him in on the cheap.

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