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The sooner the club make an official announcement regarding the coach the sooner we can "lance the boil" and move on to fully supporting the new coach, the new players and ethos they bring. The TS and RA debates will soon be forgotten. That's when we can look forward to the 2018 season.

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Quote: Wires71 "Completely agree - it's about exchange of views in a respectful way. In the main I think we do that on this forum. I do suspect some personal vendetta's going on, but that's just a reflection of the limitation and defect of some peoples character.

You are right, this is a throwaway RL forum board not a written submission to the High Court and as for those so offended they announce loudly that they are staying away, that's a weakness they cannot tolerate people holding different views from themselves.

This forum should be a broad church with a kaleidoscope of views encouraged from people of all walks of life. Inclusion, not exclusion.

There's a saying that is quite apt "Instead of bitching about the dark, light a candle".'"


And this is why i don't understand the "I'm not posting on here anymore" posts.

"If you're not letting me win I'm taking my ball home" icon_cry.gif

It took me a long time to be convinced that Smith should be replaced. I was in the camp of those people asking who we would get to replace him that's better than what we have. Like Sally said, it will take lots and lots to get me to believe Price is a better option but equally I accept I may be proved wrong.

The way people react to things, process change etc. is all part of our make up and character.

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Back to the thread. What do I want.

Silly question really because the answer is "everything"

Titles, a Guardiola-esqe equivalent RL playing style, a group of players who give everything on the field, a club hierarchy who tell me what's going on, on a daily and weekly basis. A good match day experience. A good atmosphere at the stadium. A commercial leader at the top of the hierarchy who is bold and strong and who delivers change in an effective and meaningful way. Honesty. Integrity. Responsible.

Also, while I'm not a "drum banger", I do think the stadium lacks any identity inside. Id love it to be a patriotic place with banners and history showcased through the home stands. I'm not talking nal Al and his 'wolves forever' and 'it's always our year' cringe efforts, just something to liven the place up on match day and to make it a bit less.. Soulless.

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Quote: Captain Hook "This is a thread about what we want from the club, i.e. forward looking. There are plenty of threads about "where it all went wrong" and "wasn't I clever for saying Smith should go" where the past can be re hashed ad infinitum.'"


So why didn't you pull browny up on "Negativity has become a bit of an addiction for some on here, it is embarrassing" which opened up the topic.

That's hardly a blue skies thinking, forward looking, motivating post is it? No, instead you just have a got at me instead. Tiresome. Just add me to your block list - simple.

In the meantime I forgive you, as Wirefan said, change is difficult for some, as is acknowledging one was wrong with hindsight. We need to be patient with those people.

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Quote: Wirefan "Back to the thread. What do I want.

Silly question really because the answer is "everything"

Titles, a Guardiola-esqe equivalent RL playing style, a group of players who give everything on the field, a club hierarchy who tell me what's going on, on a daily and weekly basis. A good match day experience. A good atmosphere at the stadium. A commercial leader at the top of the hierarchy who is bold and strong and who delivers change in an effective and meaningful way. Honesty. Integrity. Responsible.

Also, while I'm not a "drum banger", I do think the stadium lacks any identity inside. Id love it to be a patriotic place with banners and history showcased through the home stands. I'm not talking nal Al and his 'wolves forever' and 'it's always our year' cringe efforts, just something to liven the place up on match day and to make it a bit less.. Soulless.'"


I'd like to feel that pre-match "tingle" again. I can't explain it, when the big matches come against good opponents and the game could go either way. The crowd are polarised and there is tension in the air. I remember a recent night game Saints away at KR like that. It's what the commercial men don't understand when it comes to live games. Camped under a tin roof, excitement and apprehension, the noise, the smells, the passion, it's tribal, it's the very essence of belonging. It's nothing to do with kiss cams and dancing girls.

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If you ask me...only positivity has come from all the negativity...which can only mean it was all positive.

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Quote: rubber duckie "If you ask me...only positivity has come from all the negativity...which can only mean it was all positive.'"


Good one Rubber ... I will remember that line.
Your love of the Wire always comes through.

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Quote: Wirefan "Back to the thread. What do I want.


Also, while I'm not a "drum banger", I do think the stadium lacks any identity inside. Id love it to be a patriotic place with banners and history showcased through the home stands. I'm not talking nal Al and his 'wolves forever' and 'it's always our year' cringe efforts, just something to liven the place up on match day and to make it a bit less.. Soulless.'"


This is a great shout, under the South Stand we have "Wall of Fame", how about some of those pictures at the back of the stands visible to all.

We have a stadium named after a car sales company and stands named after compass points and a TV guy. I understand that Stadium Naming is money and that's fine but the stands? Why cant we name the stands after the great players we have had, this could be voted for by the supporters.

The ground has had days when it has been rocking but in general it is pretty subdued.

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Quote: Snaggletooth "This is a great shout, under the South Stand we have "Wall of Fame", how about some of those pictures at the back of the stands visible to all.

We have a stadium named after a car sales company and stands named after compass points and a TV guy. I understand that Stadium Naming is money and that's fine but the stands? Why cant we name the stands after the great players we have had, this could be voted for by the supporters.

The ground has had days when it has been rocking but in general it is pretty subdued.'"


My suggestion of a giant picture of Steve Anderson on the splash guard of all the urinals seemed to fall on deaf ears.

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Quote: easyWire "My suggestion of a giant picture of Steve Anderson on the splash guard of all the urinals seemed to fall on deaf ears.'"


I think criticism of Anderson is unfair. The lads loved him, he came mid-slump, decent reputation, and he had novel ideas for the game and very little money to build a team. He wasn't given enough time.

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Quote: Wires71 "So why didn't you pull browny up on "Negativity has become a bit of an addiction for some on here, it is embarrassing" which opened up the topic.

That's hardly a blue skies thinking, forward looking, motivating post is it? No, instead you just have a got at me instead. Tiresome. Just add me to your block list - simple.

In the meantime I forgive you, as Wirefan said, change is difficult for some, as is acknowledging one was wrong with hindsight. We need to be patient with those people.'"

Strangely not all my posts are aimed at you. It was a general comment. I find it tiresome that every topic comes back to the same subject.
As for your "forgiveness", we both know that is a feeble attempt to patronise me. I will comment as I see fit, if you cant handle opinions that are different to yours that is not my problem.

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Quote: Wires71 "I think criticism of Anderson is unfair. The lads loved him, he came mid-slump, decent reputation, and he had novel ideas for the game and very little money to build a team. He wasn't given enough time.'"


Is that a SC-style sarcastic post?

Anderson upset most of the players and famously said in a post-match interview questioning why we were so bad - “Ah mate, it’s yer Referees”.

However, he had a sterling reputation as a performance director, I’ll give you that. Maybe we could get him back in that respect.

The person I felt sorry for in 2002 was David Plange. He took a lot of the flak unfairly when it was clear that the blame lay with Anderson.

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Looks like they are going to be putting pictures of 'wire legends' above the stand exits anyway

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Quote: Captain Hook "Strangely not all my posts are aimed at you. It was a general comment. I find it tiresome that every topic comes back to the same subject.
As for your "forgiveness", we both know that is a feeble attempt to patronise me. I will comment as I see fit, if you cant handle opinions that are different to yours that is not my problem.'"


[iCaptain Hook wrote

So which people (again)?

You say you will comment as you see fit, but seem to get a titty lip when others do the same. If threads come back to the same subject surely that is other users posting as they see fit? The moderators have the power to step in if they think a thread is being unnecessarily derailed and to maintain balance.

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Quote: Wires71 "[iCaptain Hook wrote

So which people (again)?

You say you will comment as you see fit, but seem to get a titty lip when others do the same. If threads come back to the same subject surely that is other users posting as they see fit? The moderators have the power to step in if they think a thread is being unnecessarily derailed and to maintain balance.'"

No titty lip here, nor did I say people can't post what they want (although what the point of having a topic header is is becoming less clear) just pointing out that re hashing the same subject over and over I (personally) find boring. It seems it's you that takes it all to heart.
As for who I was referring to, read the various topics and draw your own conclusions, I wouldn't want to upset anyone's sensibilities by naming names.

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