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To be honest I am happy with the fact that we are now 'up there'.... anything else is a bonus.

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Quote: MikeyWire "Agreed..!

Another thing thats annoying me is the way everyone is banging on about these 3 Melbourne Storm players Wigan have signed..
Ok they are proven quality NRL players..But so were Monaghan and King....King especially suffered a culture shock in his first season.....
Wire fans of all people should know that some overseas players require a bedding in period others take to England like a duck to water..Hicks and Grose are just 2 off the top of my head...

To say that Lima,Hoffman and Finch ar going to walk in and start ripping up Super League is a touch naive IMO....'"



I think we're more confident than usual with these signings as firstly they are coming over in a group, which should hopefully help them settle in, as well as coming over to join a coach which they know well, and in turn knows their strengths, weaknesses and personalities already.

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Everybody has Saints down as being improvers next season but I'm not so sure. If Tony Smith was leaving and we were getting Royce Simmons in as coach we would be a bit concerned, fans of other clubs would be writing us off saying we were getting in a coach who got sacked nine years ago for finishing last at Penrith who then went onto win the Grand Final 2 years later under a new coach (John Lang). Simmons is a great unknown. Saints have got enough quality that you know they are going to be good but at this stage I couldn't forecast confidently how they will do, or if they will finish above us.

I reckon Wigan will be the team to beat next year. Us, Saints and Leeds will be contenders. The Grand Final will be contested between two of those four teams. The Challenge Cup final probably will be as well, with an outside chance of Hudds, Hull or Hull KR making the Challenge Cup final.

As for finishing position I'm not that bothered about whether we finish 2nd, 3rd or 4th in the table, this year we were crap in the playoffs, next year we need to be better. I would rather we ended up 7th or 8th and winning a few playoff games.

But overall my main hope for 2011 would be the third Challenge Cup in a row. If we have a carbon copy of this season, win the Challenge Cup and crap in the playoffs, that will do me.

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It's all just ifs and buts at the min. Who knows where wat team is going to finish. Ijust want to see us improve,year after year.Winning two C.C is just the start,to hopefully a long and successful period. In Warringtons rugby league history.

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[b:33tg3xj5]Me:[/b:33tg3xj5] I'm still reeling from the news that someone is considering watching the 1st and 3rd game on Saturday and NOT watching Warrington play. It's like being in Shea Stadium when the Beatles came to town and deciding to nip out for a fag. [b:33tg3xj5]knockersbumpMKII:[/b:33tg3xj5] Is it FOOK, you're good but you're not THAT good, jesus you wanky fans need to get over yourselves, Beatles at the Shea in '65 was a once in a lifetime opportunity for some (despite the following years performance), you can watch a very good team in primrose & yellow play every week if you really wanted to but comparing it to one of the very best music groups of all time in an iconic stadia such as the shea is overegging your importance, you're not even the best team in SL atm:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50086.jpg



I think we'll have to show improvement again next year. Then again, that's true every year. At the level we compete at, it's a relatively even playing field. In those circumstances, more than ever, it will come down to coaching, preparation, attitude to make the difference. The same level of performance may well see us 4th (which is practically 3rd in the current play off system anyway). I'm certain that's how the coaches will be looking at it.

I don't understand where this concern about the age of the squad is coming from. Granted, on a long enough time frame, it will be fatal to our chances as players will retire sooner or later. The age is only an issue relative to the length of the contract. As long as players can perform at the require level for the length of their deal - who cares how old they are?

We just have to trust the head coach and his staff to spot when it's time to move a player on. As Smith has shown in the way he dealt with Gleeson, Mathers and, on a slighlt different angle, Myler, he has the balls to do whatever is needed.

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Next year will be interesting. We obviously improved a lot on last year but there was plenty of scope to do that. There is less room for improvement next year and it's going to be harder for us to improve by that smaller amount.

For me (all things remaining equal) its the composure in big games we need to improve on. Saints is a prime example. We would put ourselves in a position to be in with a shout of winning the game but would make poor decisions. Not necessarily howlers but just not doing the right things at the right time.

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Quote: Ulster Wire "Next year will be interesting. We obviously improved a lot on last year but there was plenty of scope to do that. There is less room for improvement next year and it's going to be harder for us to improve by that smaller amount.

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That's a good call....If 2009 was 4 out of 10, then 2010 was 8 out of 10.....As Ulster points out, it then becomes harder to better that and become a 9 or a 10.

Personally, I'm not concerned with how Wigan or Saints do, or who they may or may not have signed. I just want to see improvement from Wire and then we can go from there and let everybody else worry about their own results.

One thing is for certain is that if we get a relatively full season from Brett Hodgson then we will be significantly improved....We had 2 'weak' spots in the side, full-back and loose forward. We have signed arguably the best full back in our league....I think we need a loose forward urgently to finish it off and make us complete. In an ideal world it would be O'Loughlan or Sinfield. In the real world it wouldn't surprise me if Westerman has been enquired about at some point and ultimately, it won't shock me to see Jon Clarke filling that role more regularly next season, when Smith has the conundrum of fitting Myler/Monagan/Clarke/Higham in the same 17.

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I think we'll improve on this season because there's plenty of competition for places and some of the younger players have got another year's experience.

I'm more than happy with the squad and - regardless of stats - with Hodgson we have a very good strike player and goal kicker.

TS will be working on consistency and the mental side of things to make sure we improve - particularly at the end of the season.

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League leaders odds 2011:

Wigan 7/4
Saints 2/1
Wire 4/1
Leeds 6/1

Plenty of money to be made for those of you who are confident about next season.

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Quote: fes "I think we'll improve on this season because there's plenty of competition for places and some of the younger players have got another year's experience.

I'm more than happy with the squad and - regardless of stats - with Hodgson we have a very good strike player and goal kicker.

TS will be working on consistency and the mental side of things to make sure we improve - particularly at the end of the season.'"


Spot on. Improvement does not only equate to recruitment, in fact, recruitment is often a gamble with new players to settle in a new contry and team. For me, the measure of TS is how he can get an extra 5% from a settled and confident squad with one very high quality addition. That is the measure of a great coach.

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I think wigan will dominate RL for the next few years but your lot should be next best. Youve made the signing of the last few years in Hodgson. Saints and Leeds are on the slide. Hudds are the biggest danger with (it pains me to say it) Hull KR - both got top coaches and improving sides.

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Quote: lummy "Saints ...are on the slide.'"


You should wish you were on Saints slide Not out of the top 2 in the league for the last 6 years, 10 consecutive CC semi finals, 5 consecutive Grand Finals, 4 League leaders shields and 3 Challenge cups (on the bounce), and all this whilst loosing Sculthorpe, Long, Now Cunningham, Newlove and Joynt.

Two years ago Saints were pilloried for having an ageing squad it appears that you have picked up the mantle.

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Quote: steve "You should wish you were on Saints slide Not out of the top 2 in the league for the last 6 years, 10 consecutive CC semi finals, 5 consecutive Grand Finals, 4 League leaders shields and 3 Challenge cups (on the bounce), and all this whilst loosing Sculthorpe, Long, Now Cunningham, Newlove and Joynt.

Two years ago Saints were pilloried for having an ageing squad it appears that you have picked up the mantle.'"


...and a record 4 losses on the trot

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Quote: inside_man "I think we're more confident than usual with these signings as firstly they are coming over in a group, which should hopefully help them settle in, as well as coming over to join a coach which they know well, and in turn knows their strengths, weaknesses and personalities already.'"



And Leeds coach Brian McClennan worked with Eastwood with the kiwis, he gave him his international deyboo

didnt stop him from being a homesick rubbish fat lump

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Quote: Enicomb "...and a record 4 losses on the trot'"


I dont recall Warrington being there????

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