FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Warrington Wolves > Briers the problem ?
54 posts in 5 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
JWP
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach13016No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2015Sep 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
10347_1278884845.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_10347.jpg



Quote: The Wood "Probably none, but then you have the likes of Danny Brough and Mick Dobson who actually...whats the word...TRY to be creative with half an opposition's pack running at them.

Briers in his current form cant seem to do that.'"


Briers has done bugger all, but he's done more than Danny Brough this year.

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner5558No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200421 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2022Oct 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
Games/PDT_003.gif
:Games/PDT_003.gif



Quote: JWP "Briers has done bugger all, but he's done more than Danny Brough this year.'"


I wasn't referring to just this season in that first sentence.

JWP
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach13016No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2015Sep 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
10347_1278884845.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_10347.jpg



Quote: The Wood "I wasn't referring to just this season in that first sentence.'"


I know, I was only playing.

I think Briers is a bit of an easy target at times. I moan at his flimsy defence, I think he could do much better at times. I moan about him moaning a little, stuff like that. I'll never call his ability with ball in hand, his ability to put Westwood & Gleeson over with such ease at times. This year, he's spending more time on the left edge, or in centrefield, certainly at Saints anyhow, I think personally, at the minute he & Monaghan are stuggling to define their roles, and neither are putting their best foot forward, needs fixing, quickly.

There's loads to pick at him for, but for me, he's still got the best pair of hands in SL. (.... and a very quick brain, too quick at times.)

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner5952No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2018May 2014LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
6580.jpg
:6580.jpg



Quote: JWP "I know, I was only playing.

I think Briers is a bit of an easy target at times. I moan at his flimsy defence, I think he could do much better at times. I moan about him moaning a little, stuff like that. I'll never call his ability with ball in hand, his ability to put Westwood & Gleeson over with such ease at times. This year, he's spending more time on the left edge, or in centrefield, certainly at Saints anyhow, I think personally, at the minute he & Monaghan are stuggling to define their roles, and neither are putting their best foot forward, needs fixing, quickly.

There's loads to pick at him for, but for me, he's still got the best pair of hands in SL. (.... and a very quick brain, too quick at times.)'"
I agree, and with him now attacking on the left, and the channel system being abandoned, it means that our right hand attack is pretty ordinary.

His passing left to right is almost perfect (and this is a pass many players struggle with), but his right to left isn't perfect, and often whilst accurate, they are slower, as he doesn't get the spin on the ball. Monaghan also had plenty of assists last year, and had a decent link with L.Anderson and King down the left.

Briers did one great pass on Saturday, and that was to put Gleeson through, although Gleeson dropped the ball with an open line.

The sooner they get back to targeting their favoured flank, the better.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach393No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2015Apr 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
26127_1265063813.gif
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_26127.gif



Quote: JWP "I know, I was only playing.

I think Briers is a bit of an easy target at times. I moan at his flimsy defence, I think he could do much better at times. I moan about him moaning a little, stuff like that. I'll never call his ability with ball in hand, his ability to put Westwood & Gleeson over with such ease at times. This year, he's spending more time on the left edge, or in centrefield, certainly at Saints anyhow, I think personally, at the minute he & Monaghan are stuggling to define their roles, and neither are putting their best foot forward, needs fixing, quickly.

There's loads to pick at him for, but for me, he's still got the best pair of hands in SL. (.... and a very quick brain, too quick at times.)'"


the problem is Briers and Monas are clearly at loggerheads, look at the first 10 mins of the game , monas and briers arguing over the next play , second half Monas tried to run the show turning his back on Briers

Something is not right and hasnt been for the last few years, taking the captain badge off Briers was the right thing to do but I think Moz was a compromise.

Time a manager broke the Briers strangle hold on this club and moved on

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5643
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2020Jun 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
17012_1369957324.jpg
[img:2s4u5nxg]http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k305/The_flying_biscuit/sig2.jpg[/img:2s4u5nxg] 2009..........2010...........2011............2012..........2016..........2017:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_17012.jpg



Quote: wireboot "the problem is Briers and Monas are clearly at loggerheads, look at the first 10 mins of the game , monas and briers arguing over the next play , second half Monas tried to run the show turning his back on Briers

Something is not right and hasnt been for the last few years, taking the captain badge off Briers was the right thing to do but I think Moz was a compromise.

Time a manager broke the Briers strangle hold on this club and moved on'"


you identify Monaghan Turns his back on his half back partner and also that the replacement Captain also hasnt worked yet you still want Briers Out....??

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach11580
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Sep 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: JWP "Briers has done bugger all, but he's done more than Danny Brough this year.'"


Your right there pal. Broughy is injured and hasnt played this season icon_rolleyes.gif

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach23178No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2023Apr 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
11426_1682401247.jpeg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_11426.jpeg



Quote: chissitt "Your right there pal. Broughy is injured and hasnt played this season
8 pints.

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner3850No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200421 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2023Jul 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
7969.jpg
[url=http://www.havoc51.com:2bupsqgn]havoc51[/url:2bupsqgn]:7969.jpg



Briers is the enigma. We won't win anything with him, but we won't win anything without him.

We have 2 main problems over the last 2 games. Crap defence on the left, and the inability to score second half (except for blah blah).

Move briers back to the right & re-establish the link with gleeson. For a couple of years now it's been our best weapon. Gleeson's in the shop window fror the NRL next year. He'd love to be knocking in tries for fun again & sticking his winger in for a bucketful.

Put your best defending half on the side where the defence is weak.

Failing that sack Monas, King & Gleeson off at the end of the year & pay through the nose for Yeaman, Deacon & a top Aussie centre.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach683No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2013Oct 2013LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



i can't work lee briers out. sometimes he is pure genius, and he carried the club through some very depressing times almost single handedly. his defence has oft been lamented. he can tackle, but he needs some help. i don't know whether trainers have worked on his defence, i asume they have but some just haven't got the knack of defending. it does take some balls to tackle a james graham one on one when you are half the size. however, his ball in hand play used to be what he was all about. his 40/20's. his drop goals when games are tight. he is a match winner, and a game breaker.
i think relieving him of the captaincy was a logical move. it gave him a chance to concentrate on his play. this isn't what has happened though. it now appears he has been relieved of most of the reponsibility he's gained over 8 years. hicks kicks. mona's (occasionally) directs operations. i think he feels he's under used. perhaps he used to thrive on the responsibility. he took an awful lot of pressure on his shoulders, and now he has virtually nothing.
for a player who's given the vast majority of his career to us, i have never gottten that feeling of love from the fans that they had for some other players. he is as somone quite rightly stated an enigma. he's a so very nearly man. he could have been one of the best, but i fear he will be remembered for what could have been, as he has no medals or individual honours to look back on. he'll look at the world cup semi, the leeds play off game etc, and say "there could have been so much more, but....." and for this reason, i think this has to be his last season with us. he's tried his best, in some seasons given his all, but i don't think his heart is in it anymore, and as good a player as he can be, i think its best for all if he has one final hurrah else where.

........and if he does, i am in no doubt he will produce the sort of game we know he can and come back to haunt us.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach6362No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2012Apr 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
12937_1277989655.jpg
We're the first ones to starve, we're the first ones to die The first ones in line for that pie-in-the-sky And we're always the last when the cream is shared out For the worker is working when the fat cat's about:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_12937.jpg



This thread has inspired me to dig out my 2005 away jersey to wear on Friday (if it still fits). In a desperate juvenille act, in some feint hope of recapturing my childhood, I had it printed 'Briers 6', like all the cool kids with their 'Nat Wood 7', or the girls and their 'Bad Boy Bridgey 25', etc etc. It was - and remains - the only time in my life I have ever had a Rugby shirt printed with a player's name and number.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach11464No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2024Aug 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
15968.gif
:15968.gif



We have never replaced Nat Wood (for all his detractors on here). Pretty much responsible for a large number of the best moments at the HJ.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman19907No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Oct 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
1883.jpg
Didn't William Webb Ellis pick up the ball and run, someone should really tell Rugby Union. www.squadbuilder.co.uk:1883.jpg



Quote: mark_m "We have never replaced Nat Wood (for all his detractors on here). Pretty much responsible for a large number of the best moments at the HJ.'"


Johns' debut aside, I can't think of any.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4055No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2009Jan 1970LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
30322.jpg
Lupus Non Mordet Lupum The Original [color=blue:1dbjukd0][size=200:1dbjukd0][b:1dbjukd0]LOWES OUT[/b:1dbjukd0][/size:1dbjukd0][/color:1dbjukd0] Since 2007 [b:1dbjukd0]Running cost of SL 2009[/b:1dbjukd0] Last Game: Hull Away (Super league) Current Total: £559.50:30322.jpg



Quote: getdownmonkeyman "Johns' debut aside, I can't think of any.'"


All the Wigan @ home games, first game against Wakefield, Hull at home.

I'm still waiting for paratroopers to drop into the stadium with pizza

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2972
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2023Jun 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
19301_1320335935.jpg
[quote="Rob_Wire":344rv4oa] :lol: :lol: Best thread for ages on here![/quote:344rv4oa] [quote="Tin Soldier":344rv4oa]Reply of the year. :lol: :lol:[/quote:344rv4oa]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_19301.jpg



Yeah, you're forgetting all the comedy, GDMM.
Cheer up, you old bugger.

54 posts in 5 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
54 posts in 5 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


3.92138671875:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
17m
Planning for next season
Vancouver Le
177
Recent
Shopping list for 2025
Cokey
5577
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Cokey
40732
Recent
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
MadDogg
4018
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
52s
Shopping list for 2025
Cokey
5577
1m
2024
Butcher
5
2m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
Stu M
14
2m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63221
2m
Wigan v Wire in Vegas
karetaker
11
2m
Dons Squad 2025
Jemmo
13
2m
Planning for next season
Vancouver Le
177
3m
Film game
karetaker
5639
3m
TV Games - Not Hull
UllFC
3080
3m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
MadDogg
4018
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
2024
Butcher
5
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Butcher
5
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
jonh
5
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
12
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
Butcher
41
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Butcher
20
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
476
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
532
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1275
England's Women Demolish The W..
1095
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1340
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1130
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1395
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1930
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2148
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2387
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1960
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2197
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2661
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2093
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2165
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M 1,630 80,15514,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
 Thu 6th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Hull FC
v
Leigh
 Fri 7th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Castleford
v
Salford
20:00
St.Helens
v
Hull KR
 Sat 8th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
17:30
Catalans
v
Leeds
 Sun 9th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
17:30
Warrington
v
Wakefield
17:30
Wigan
v
Huddersfield
 Thu 20th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R4
20:00
Salford
v
Huddersfield
 Fri 21st Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R4
20:00
St.Helens
v
Warrington
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington-Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
17m
Planning for next season
Vancouver Le
177
Recent
Shopping list for 2025
Cokey
5577
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Cokey
40732
Recent
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
MadDogg
4018
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
52s
Shopping list for 2025
Cokey
5577
1m
2024
Butcher
5
2m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
Stu M
14
2m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63221
2m
Wigan v Wire in Vegas
karetaker
11
2m
Dons Squad 2025
Jemmo
13
2m
Planning for next season
Vancouver Le
177
3m
Film game
karetaker
5639
3m
TV Games - Not Hull
UllFC
3080
3m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
MadDogg
4018
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
2024
Butcher
5
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Butcher
5
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
jonh
5
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
12
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
Butcher
41
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Butcher
20
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
476
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
532
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1275
England's Women Demolish The W..
1095
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1340
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1130
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1395
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1930
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2148
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2387
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1960
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2197
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2661
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2093
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2165


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!