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Quote: sally cinnamon "Duckie are you sure your memory isn't playing tricks.

Boyd 'was already a Wire in an average team at best'....?
Warrington were 11th under Reggie Bowden the year before Boyd arrived.
They finished 4th and 3rd in his first two seasons. That was surely not an average team.

As for John Woods doubling our scores in a game....the year before he arrived (1986/87) we came 3rd, scored 728 points in 30 games (24.3 pts/game).

Woods first year (1987/8icon_cool.gif we came 6th, scored 531 in 26 games (20.4 pts/game)

Woods second year (1988/89) we came 11th, scored 456 pts in 26 games (17.5 pts/game)


I'm not going to argue with stats...
All they do is give me a headache.
Before Woods came I rarely saw Wire scoring around 30 points in a match. I was happening regularly that we were high 20s to 30s.
That was all because of John Woods. He never shun a kick whatever the score was.

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Its very very sad but i dont think currie will fulfil his potential, he was on course to be a fantastic second rower, and its to his credit that after 2 knee reconstructions he is contention for a spot. But he cant provide the quality that we require. Fingers crossed i am very wrong.

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Quote: Saddened! "Would it not be better to loan him out and try to get his confidence back up rather than just dropping him? Send him somewhere where he'll have more space to run and make a few breaks. Like a strong Championship side? I half watched most of your game as I cooked my tea and did other stuff and I didn't even notice he was playing.

Still, he's in a better place than George Burgess.'"


I like Ben. I'd have him at Leigh in a shot.

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Quote: Cokey "I like Ben. I'd have him at Leigh in a shot.'"


I think we all like him and hope that he makes a FULL recovery and gets back to where he was pre-injuries. It's too early in season to be writing him or anyone off but it's only right and I would think that Currie recognizes this, that he is playing for his future....fingers crossed

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Watched the game back today, I think he played quite well. Not the dynamic runner of ‘16, but carried well and gave King a bit of early ball. The comments about lateral runners is accurate, twice Ratchford runs out his options on the left hand side. Widdop is good at squaring up the defence, which in theory should open up space out wide, let’s hope they can form a combination, as when Ben’s good, he is a major asset.

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didn't manage to see last weeks game, so the comments on here were a bit confusing since some were positive, some negative.

i thought he was very good last night, not back to his best but significantly better than last season, ran very strong, he was attempting to beat defenders on the outside again, which i dont recall him doing last season, very encouraging.

Just need a few gaps now for him to exploit.

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I had serious doubts on whether he could get back to anywhere near his best BEFORE last night.
Now, it's looking a lot more hopeful. I guess its all about confidence...he needs to be confident that if he runs into two prop forwards at full tilt...he isn't going to end up back at square 1. Admittedly running into Stains props last night wasn't a true test....hopefully in the coming weeks he might get a more serious challenge. For now, I'd say he was at about 80% of his full potential...which I think is remarkable. If he just stays at that I'd be happy to give him another contract.

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Ben was very good last night. Whether he can be the same attacking threat as before the ACL reconstructions time will tell, but he does seem to have adapted his game better this season to suit his limitations with the reduced lateral movement he has.

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Ben, like all our forwards, was utterly fearless last night and it will do him the world of good. The knee problem is the first real setback he has had in his career and mentally last night will give him huge confidence.

....... and how good was Joe Philbin? MOM for me - we forget how far and how fast this lad had progressed and GB honours have elevated his confidence hugely.

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1 to 17 played well last night.

Thought Currie did very well - got through a lot of work defensively and in attack he often seemed to be half through with 2 or 3 defenders clinging on.

As has been said above - Joe Philbin was immense. Even though he's played for GB, I think he really came of age tonight and didn't look like a bench interchange prop.

I add a word of caution to all this celebration though - Saints were without several key players and i mske no bones for raising this - losing Warmsley before the match was a MASSIVE blow to them. Coote was another. And in the match they lost Percival too.

Not taking anything away from a superb Wire performance, but the next march against Saints will be tougher and we'll need to show the same resolve to win.

So who's responsible for turning us from a boring / predictable side at the end of last year to what we've shown in these2 matches?

Did Briersy say to Price at the end of last year 'We need to do x,y,z' or maybe Hendo?
Or was it a bit of all of them?
I'd like to think that it came from the assistants in some ways because that would bode good for the future.

Onwards and upwards

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We were playing good rugby last year until injuries and a drop in form ruined our season.

The key this season will be to maintain this level of form throughout the year.

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I think the biggest difference between these first two games and the end of last season has just been the intensity of the players. They seem to be thinking faster and playing at a more aggressive tempo than last year when it just seemed like we were accepting being second best.

I'm definitely encouraged by Currie last night.

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No complaints from me, Currie played well in an excellent defencesive team performnce.

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He took a couple of strong runs into their line, looked fearless and not like somebody worrying about another injury.


We moved the ball incredibly well on Thursday night. Shows how well the team is clicking together. I take the point about Saints having players missing but would counter that with a question mark over the depth of their squad.

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Quote: Robwire "He took a couple of strong runs into their line, looked fearless and not like somebody worrying about another injury.


We moved the ball incredibly well on Thursday night. Shows how well the team is clicking together. I take the point about Saints having players missing but would counter that with a question mark over the depth of their squad.'"


Agreed he made some really good solid drives with good leg drive especially in the second half last week. Where as in moments last year, he seemed to take the tackle (almost given in) to the defender, but not really push on through the defensive line.

Ideally we need to see more of the same from Currie, hopefully he will develop his attacking game more, loved seeing his long looping passes to wingers or his inside ball to Ratchford from a penalty tap..

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