Making yards is a problem for us because we have no offload game so the opposition can commit numbers to tackles without worrying about gaps being exploited. We are the victims of our own crappy game plan and playing style. It doesn't need an offload every tackle, just the threat of an offload is enough. We have been dire and toothless and most of it is our own doing, the players can't have enjoyed playing this season.

It is easy to see the season through rose tinted glasses with the CC win which I admit was absolutely fabulous but that was a terrific one-off job on the opposition.
Even in the early part of the season I didn't see that much. Yes we were second for a long period of the season but wasn't that more to do with everybody else being rather poor and inconsistent that us being any good. The playing record over the latter part of the season has been absolutely awful in both results and style. In many other situations that would result in the coach being sacked. I am not an advocate of the Watford sack you coach every year methodology but after some over night pontificating I just think that Price has lost his way and control and needs to go. The club needs to show a certain ruthlessness to send a message to everybody in the club including the playing and coaching staff. It seems to me that the players are running the show and deciding when they can be bothered to play or not. Even last night there was not a level of intensity I would expect in a play-off do or die game. Why not?

Next season we will have the best spine in the league by a country mile and need somebody in charge who can sort the squad and the players out to make sure we have a team going forward to give the space for the spine to shine. Five drives and a kick and hope to the corners will not do.

Well this is the thing ive been sticking up for toby king, ppl saying he cant draw a man and get his winger away, THERE IS ZERO SPACE for him or Goodwin to exploit now, defences arent getting drawn in, we dont work to pull defences tight, it all starts in the middle.

This coupled with our reluctance to push up in defense. We need forwards who make the occasional offload and backs who can draw a man and put a pass away.

But we [ido[/i have an offload game - Cooper, Hill, Clarke, Lineham & Hughes in particular are all very adept at getting the ball out of the tackle under pressure.

But they've clearly been told not to. [iThat's[/i the issue.

Exactly our problems are all down to coaching. London played brillinant rugby under henderson, I'd keep him and bring in a new coach for him and Paul anderson to work with. I think briers needs some time at a different club as well just to freshen himself up.

What's the point in having strike players like Blake Austin, Stef Ratchford, Daz Clarke etc when we've got Sam Allardyce in charge ?

Hallelujah, brother

Early season we had a great offload game. I remember at the start of the season everyone was saying how good cooper and lineham were with their offloads, always managing to hit the defenders spin and get the ball away, even from impossible looking positions.

As the season has gone on, the offloading has disappeared.

The players cant have forgotten how to offload so you can only assume that they are told not to offload!!

Good point. When we played London away in the middle 8s two years ago, their style of rugby was excellent. I wonder how much influence Henderson does or doesn't have in the current set-up.

i've said it on here a few times, saints away, we hit a brick wall, we then followed that up with the salford kicking at home, and we became an unrecognizable team.

Apparently,as an added novelty bonus ,next year's season ticket will contain a bite off suicide pill for when you can't take any more.

Can I have mine now.

You can get one from the club shop Karetaker , but be quick it will be a samaritans branch next season.

Il fone them first then.