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| Quote: Teessidewire "Now that really is a stupid post.'"
It was posted in the heat of the moment, and you have my apologies.
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| In the end , Westwood will be punished and has put himself out of a challenge cup semi-final , possibly first match of super 8s , not done himself or the club any favours
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| Quote: Cutter76 "In the end , Westwood will be punished and has put himself out of a challenge cup semi-final , possibly first match of super 8s , not done himself or the club any favours'"
I still find the system very frustrating, and not just this particular incident (I have said it previously lots of time if you had the time to look through my posts)
If Westwood (or any player) is banned for an on-field incident this indicates he should have been sent off at the time. It's almost the RFL's way of saying the referee got it wrong! With the amount of suspensions each year, that's an awful lot of foul play the referees are not acting strongly enough against.
Banning any player for the following game(s) is usually no consolation to the team who were actually damaged by his foul play through the loss of a player (in this case for 74 minutes!).
I would propose that one game of any suspension is served the next time the offender plays the team he committed the offence against. So, if Westwood gets a one match ban, it should be served next time the club he is playing for plays against Castleford. If he gets two matches, he should be banned for the following game (regardless of opposition) and then the next time he is due to play the team he committed the offence against.
At least this way the affected team have some kind of justice served for having the offence committed against them.
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "I still find the system very frustrating, and not just this particular incident (I have said it previously lots of time if you had the time to look through my posts)
If Westwood (or any player) is banned for an on-field incident this indicates he should have been sent off at the time. It's almost the RFL's way of saying the referee got it wrong! With the amount of suspensions each year, that's an awful lot of foul play the referees are not acting strongly enough against.
Banning any player for the following game(s) is usually no consolation to the team who were actually damaged by his foul play through the loss of a player (in this case for 74 minutes!).
I would propose that one game of any suspension is served the next time the offender plays the team he committed the offence against. So, if Westwood gets a one match ban, it should be served next time the club he is playing for plays against Castleford. If he gets two matches, he should be banned for the following game (regardless of opposition) and then the next time he is due to play the team he committed the offence against.
At least this way the affected team have some kind of justice served for having the offence committed against them.'"
Depending on his ban and the Super 8's fixture scheduling you may get your wish.
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| Quote: Thelonius "Depending on his ban and the Super 8's fixture scheduling you may get your wish.'"
Possibly, but my argument is more with the general system that this specific incident. I've said it lots of times - Rangi Chase on Brett Ferres and James Green on Travis Burns spring to mind.
I just think that the team offended against very rarely gain the compensation of the suspension. Indeed, sometimes the advantage is indirectly given to the rivals of the team offended against (for example if you have Huddersfield first up, they will gain the advantage of a player suspended for an offence committed against their closest rivals!).
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "Possibly, but my argument is more with the general system that this specific incident. I've said it lots of times - Rangi Chase on Brett Ferres and James Green on Travis Burns spring to mind.
I just think that the team offended against very rarely gain the compensation of the suspension. Indeed, sometimes the advantage is indirectly given to the rivals of the team offended against (for example if you have Huddersfield first up, they will gain the advantage of a player suspended for an offence committed against their closest rivals!).'"
But on the other side, how many times have you played a team missing a player(s) suspended because of offences committed against other teams. Cliche I know (and one I don't particularly like) but over time it does even itself up.
I think the onus should be on the match day officials (there would be at least 6 of them there yesterday) to be good enough to get things right as often as humanly possible, and then have the nuts to make decisions at the time rather than handing them on to someone else.
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| Told you there was nothing wrong with him.
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "I still find the system very frustrating, and not just this particular incident (I have said it previously lots of time if you had the time to look through my posts)
If Westwood (or any player) is banned for an on-field incident this indicates he should have been sent off at the time. It's almost the RFL's way of saying the referee got it wrong! With the amount of suspensions each year, that's an awful lot of foul play the referees are not acting strongly enough against.
Banning any player for the following game(s) is usually no consolation to the team who were actually damaged by his foul play through the loss of a player (in this case for 74 minutes!).
I would propose that one game of any suspension is served the next time the offender plays the team he committed the offence against. So, if Westwood gets a one match ban, it should be served next time the club he is playing for plays against Castleford. If he gets two matches, he should be banned for the following game (regardless of opposition) and then the next time he is due to play the team he committed the offence against.
At least this way the affected team have some kind of justice served for having the offence committed against them.'"
The thing is, no system is perfect. A player gets banned in his club's last game of the season, then moves to another club. Use the system you've suggested and you finish up penalising his new team. Leave it as it is.
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| Idiot
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| Well charged with grade B offence
No EGP 2 matches
The guidelines also indicate that any injury caused results in the higher match ban
Oh dear ...
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| benny is turning into a gareth hock
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| Like to know what Tony Smith said to him after full time.
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| Putting someone in hospital and someone attending hospital for a check up and then being absolutely fine are two HUGELY different things.
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| What if he's found not guilty?
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