I am talking as if hes not good enough for SL? when I have said he is a very good super league player and definately in the top 30 best players of SL...

Yes and the fact that SL fans compare him to Slater as if they're in the same league, does say it all really, deluded.

Put him in the NRL and his lack of catching ability under pressure would be severely exposed, poor positional play, and lackluster defence, nevermind his poor decision making with ball in hand (ignores overlaps constantly to dummy and go on his own) would all be highlighted.

Like I said earlier, he is a poor mans Jarryd Hayne... slower, less strength and doesn't have his kicking ability in hand.

First I need to say; why do only the hall of shamers show up. Arctic , you are the most one eyed, no brain rugby chav I can think of.

Any way, don't get me wrong; I want a sam tomkins in the league and therew is no reson to suggest he can't be as good as the past greats.

Ancw, sorry. I am not singling you out. I wasn't going to reply as this is turning into another wire/ wigan slap fight. However, we have always had better forwards thab aus but ter backs. Billy slater (pure class) can destroy us or nz (wc winners and 4 nat) with ease. Tomkins has been no where near that. We should expect him to at least show some of the talent he shows against bradford against aus or nz or even png. He doesn't!

Sorry. To compare tomkins to billy slater is pure moronic.

Tomkins has pace and can slip through ty defense. But, as I said; he is frail, niggly, can't see a pass, can't catch a semi difficult bomb and hasnkt the strengh needed at fullback.

He has stopped doing the arm clamp recently and I like his charity devotion. I like him but please, don't believe this sky hype for him! Wigan are probably better than wire now but it isn't down to sam tomkins (alone) think paddy richards, carmont and joel tomkins... (hahaha just kidding)

Tomkins is class
Wigan will probably do the double/treble

A Wire fan calling it on what he's seeing at the moment.
No way will Leeds beat Wigan in the final

If we finish 2nd i can't see us beating saints twice, on the off chance we do i think it will tire us out for the final.

I'm not Phil Clarke never played for Wigan and love Wire more than my wife, family and all but one of my friends. Not even a pessimist

Yeah, course I was saying Tomkins is as good as Slater.

Didn't see the game, can't be bothered reading all this thread. Just remember, the Thickie Twins were calling Paul Wellens the best fullback in the World merely a couple of years ago, when he patently wasn't.

If they were talking the game, and consequently the players, all would be up in arms. You can't have it both ways.

Well you said he wouldn't look out of place.. that suggests you don't think there would be much of a drop off between the two...

Tomkins isn't even the best player in the Wigan team.... Hoffman, Finch, Lima, Curlylocks, Lulu and possibly Pat Richards all offer more to the Wigan team.

Imagine Real Madrid a few years ago,team full of stars but the (vastly under paid under appreciated) heart beat of the team was Makelele, he did the graft so that the 'stars' could shine.

He went to Chelsea and Madrid's performance dropped off.

Wigan's (regardless of the grief some one eyed muppets say) main man for me is O'Loughlin, he does the hard graft and can look almost anonymous his play is so subtle, Wigan's Makelele.

Tomkins though is (individually) brilliant, he may be a scroat, but the guy is super talented.

Sam Tomkins would not look out of place at full back for Australia.

Billy Slater is a better player than Sam Tomkins.

Sam Tomkins is probably the most talented British player in the game.

tomkins as good as slater ha ha ha never in a million years
slater does`nt bend the rules
slater would pass when theres an over lap
slater does`nt drop balls like tomkins does
slater plays in a more competitive league
slater plays state of origin has done for years

oh and slater for an aussie is far more likeable than tomkins end of

Slater gave the World Cup to New Zealand. Far more costly than any ball Tomkins has dropped.

You Forgot and Better looking silly!

youve changed your tune from your previous post again

How have I? It's funny how it's the tribal one-eyed Wire fans like you who can't see beyond the town's boundaries.

Slater can be a sh*thouse too, ask any of the guys who watch NRL

your words not mine..tomkins is as good as slater..next post slater is the best full back in the world..bit of a contradiction do you agree....i`ll admit tomkins is a good player,probably better than i thought he would be,but hes a hell of a way to go before he can be compared to billy