Quote JWP="JWP"It rains an awful lot in NZ, Rob. The players will be familiar with playing in those conditions. Nothing to do with conditions, our pack simply got on top of theirs. End of discussion. Didn't think either backline was too flash, it was whoever got on top in the middle, would go on to win. I think the last World Cup, when NZ did a job on us, it was in wet conditions then, we just weren't good enough that night, we were last night. We were in danger of getting reffed out of it in the first half but did well during that period. I don't think we should 'downplay' this win, far from it. It was the World Champions out there, who drew with Australia a fortnight back, enjoy the win, in fact talk it up, why not, we're all quick to criticise defeat, we should celebrate success in equal measure, not look for ways to 'dumb it down'.'" www.emigratenz.org/NewZealandCli ... l#auckland this would seemingly back up your statement

Quote JWP="JWP"It rains an awful lot in NZ, Rob. The players will be familiar with playing in those conditions. Nothing to do with conditions, our pack simply got on top of theirs. End of discussion. Didn't think either backline was too flash, it was whoever got on top in the middle, would go on to win. I think the last World Cup, when NZ did a job on us, it was in wet conditions then, we just weren't good enough that night, we were last night. We were in danger of getting reffed out of it in the first half but did well during that period. I don't think we should 'downplay' this win, far from it. It was the World Champions out there, who drew with Australia a fortnight back, enjoy the win, in fact talk it up, why not, we're all quick to criticise defeat, we should celebrate success in equal measure, not look for ways to 'dumb it down'.'" www.emigratenz.org/NewZealandCli ... l#auckland this would seemingly back up your statement

Great Coach, not afraid to try something different, glad weve got him at Warrington, best coach by a country mile.

We Beat 3 of the top 5 . Hkr .. Wigan ..... Hudds...... when we played those three iirc they were all on top form too..... oh yeah and at some point during the season all those 3 Handed out a good beating to Saint too ..... Bye now

Nobody is saying that it doesn`t rain in New Zealand or in fact parts of australia like Melbourne and Canberra, parts of NZ has a similar climate to what we have in the uk.

The point is that the bulk of the kiwi squad are based in australia and play their rugby in a far better overall climate, southern hemsiphere teams like the aussies and kiwis move the ball across the line at a far quicker pace than we do, their pivots and backs are more skilful with ball in hand. Add rain to the equasion and it eliminates a alot of the threat.

We played the conditions better last night, the weather eliminated an expansive game which played to our strengths, before the tournament started the majority of people were saying how good our pack looked but the three quarters looked weak.

It will be similar next week if we get wet conditions as it will blunt what the aussie backline is capable of, a game down the middle and we have a chance but if it becomes a game of how skilful and creative both sets of backs are then we will lose. Its not rocket science really.

Only on here can we go from discussing the national coach, to talking about the weather in New Zealand.

you could`nt make it up...must be another bitter and twisted soul...theres quite a few who did`nt like us winning the cup that spout utter bilge on here....

Smith is just cashing in on having a world class set of players at his disposal which was left to him by Jimmy Lowes. It's like Rafa Benitez built his rep on one season winning the Champions League with basically a great team which Houllier had left for him.

Absolutely. Furthermore, neither Smith nor Rafa had ever achieved anything at their previous clubs, so their lack of sustained success in their career shows they're flash in the pans, who've got by with massive luck.

what great team...veronin,lucas,that clown of a greek defender..talk some sense or say nowt

Oooooo the irony!

Like I say, Rafa won the Champions League on the back of great team which Houllier left for him. Voronin and Lucas weren't part of that team it was built on Houllier's boys, Dudek, Traore, Kewell, Smicer etc....all who Benitez got rid of to bring in his new super signings.

and great they are...not fit for warrington town