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| Quote Wires71="Wires71"Fair enough on the playing part. Maybe my expectations are too high. Our overseas pack signings have been distinctly average as best in the last in the last 30 years, this thread just puts that into context.
I don't count attribute any value to the TV appearances, I am only interested in the on-field performance.'"
Completely agree.
I think the overseas forwards thing is a bit more widespread than just us though. The more NRL experience that a prop coming over here has doesn’t offer convert to being a fan favourite. The NRL is attritional, they want their props to be efficient. That means no dropped balls, quality defender, ruck control and good line speed. None of that wins hearts on the terraces.
If you look at Matt Prior, Luke Douglas, Jason Ryles, Frank-Paul Nuuausala, Luke O’Donnell etc. all came over with buckets of NRL experience but never really delivered to the same standard. I’m sure there are plenty that buck the trend, but on the main, they were a let down.
The ones that really succeeded went without fanfare when they were first signed. Cuthbertson and Millington for example were journeymen in the NRL, but excellent in Super League.
It’s a fine line, those qualities may be boring but they are effective at the back end of the year when it counts. But for the chuck of salary cap it takes to bring in Dylan Napa, Zane Tetevano etc. you absolutely need them to deliver from day one. |
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I wonder what we'll be saying about Paul Vaughan in 12 months time.....
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| Quote fez1="fez1"I wonder what we'll be saying about Paul Vaughan in 12 months time.....'"
I think expectations have been managed by the last 12 months. I’m not sure it could get worse, so this years intake have a free hit. |
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| Quote Barbed Wire="Barbed Wire"Sims gets a bad rap on here, but when he wasn’t on the field the difference between him and his replacement was astonishing. He may not have been a stream train, but he was a good defender, good communicator and carried the ball up often finding quick play the balls.
Sometimes the beauty is in the detail. If you look at Mikaele/Sita for example, highlight reels are great, skittling players at will, but they caused so many problems for the defenders around them because they had no idea of how to get the basics right.
No world beater, probably didn’t get as much out of him what we would have liked, but he was a good player for us. Minor addition, his engagement with the fans, especially the younger fans, was a huge success for the club, even the BBC microphone thing and the Question of Sport appearances etc got the club into the media spotlight. Not that any of that should add value as a prop, but the club as a business should have acknowledged that.
I suspect that if he came from Batley to Warrington on the same money, he would be well liked and fondly remembered. But as he was an import with a decent reputation, we hold him against that.'"
Sims was pants for 2 seasons….however credit where due, he showed up in his final season. |
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| Aussie Dave Wright played back row in the 74/75 “Five Trophies” side  |
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73/74 was the 5 trophies season.
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We played that many games in that season (51 league and cup), that it felt like it continued into 1975.
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| Quote Wire Weaver="Wire Weaver"73/74 was the 5 trophies season.'"
Yes that is correct, and that led to the “Five Trophies” in the 74 Calendar Year achievement, the fifth of which being the Locker Cup at the start of the 74/75 season, |
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| Quote Superblue="Superblue"Yes that is correct, and that led to the “Five Trophies” in the 74 Calendar Year achievement, the fifth of which being the Locker Cup at the start of the 74/75 season,
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We won the Locker Cup in the 73/74 season as well. 74/75 had nothing to do with the 5 trophies season. |
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| Quote Wire Weaver="Wire Weaver"We won the Locker Cup in the 73/74 season as well. 74/75 had nothing to do with the 5 trophies season.'"
I agree with you, but I’m referencing the “Five Trophies Year” , not the ‘Five Trophies Season’.
I never mentioned the “Five Trophies Season”, you introduced that. |
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| Quote Superblue="Superblue"I agree with you, but I’m referencing the “Five Trophies Year” , not the ‘Five Trophies Season’.
I never mentioned the “Five Trophies Season”, you introduced that.
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Nobody ever called it the 5 trophy year. Any trophy won after June 1974 had absolutely nothing to do with the winning of the previous season. I cannot explain it any simpler. Sorry.
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| Quote Wire Weaver="Wire Weaver"Nobody ever called it the 5 trophy year. Any trophy won after June 1974 had absolutely nothing to do with the winning of the previous season. I cannot explain it any simpler. Sorry.
Also Dave Wright didn't play for Warrington in the 74/75 season, he had returned to Australia.'"
I don’t think you knew of the “Five Trophies Year”
You mistakenly assumed I had referenced the Five Trophies Season”,
My point was to suggest Dave Wright as worthy of inclusion in the best overseas team, by indicating the Five trophies Year achievement in the year he played 74.
You then started arguing about the Five Trophies Season, which I never mentioned
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