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| The salary cap was supposed to even the playing field, ensure that every club can challenge for the league and to protect clubs from going bust. None of this has happened. Just 3 current SL clubs have won the 21 SL Titles available. In the meantime we have lost world class talent from our game.
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| Quote: Wires71 "The salary cap was supposed to even the playing field, ensure that every club can challenge for the league and to protect clubs from going bust. None of this has happened. Just 3 current SL clubs have won the 21 SL Titles available. In the meantime we have lost world class talent from our game.'"
Very true
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| The salary cap isn't there to even out the competition.
It never has been.
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| In a round about way it was. It was perceived that the likes of Wigan had too much financial clout, that, left unchecked, would unbalance the game.
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| ... Not just Wigan of course!
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| ....that still had nothing to do with the salary cap....or BMM.
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| Quote: rubber duckie "The salary cap isn't there to even out the competition.
It never has been.'"
What is it for then?
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| It's purpose was to stop clubs from spending money the couldn't afford.
Trying to address clubs running at a loss.
Which it hasn't for almost all teams still, Leeds eventually made a profit, but didn't stop teams from spending more, cheating to win SL and in cases going bust, over and over, and in other cases, cheating the cap to avoid relegation....all penalised with a deferred fine and deferred points deducted, that they then appealed and got lifted...so much there's the mockery of punishment to prove it's there to make an even competition.
The rfl may be dressing it up and even able to state it primarily that it is there to make a more even competition, but if this was truly the objective, why is it not then compulsory for each club to pay full cap?....this is the only way to have a market where balance could theoretically be achieved... Perhaps this conflicts with British/European law, I don't know, but it is the only way.
So however the rfl want to dress it up, without that rule it's just bollox....which it is now completely bollox since the marquee ruling, because now there is no ceiling at all, just a tiered cap.
The woods are behind the trees.
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Quote: rubber duckie "It's purpose was to stop clubs from spending money the couldn't afford.
Trying to address clubs running at a loss.
Which it hasn't for almost all teams still, Leeds eventually made a profit, but didn't stop teams from spending more, cheating to win SL and in cases going bust, over and over, and in other cases, cheating the cap to avoid relegation....all penalised with a deferred fine and deferred points deducted, that they then appealed and got lifted...so much there's the mockery of punishment to prove it's there to make an even competition.
The rfl may be dressing it up and even able to state it primarily that it is there to make a more even competition, but if this was truly the objective, why is it not then compulsory for each club to pay full cap?....this is the only way to have a market where balance could theoretically be achieved... Perhaps this conflicts with British/European law, I don't know, but it is the only way.
So however the rfl want to dress it up, without that rule it's just bollox....which it is now completely bollox since the marquee ruling, because now there is no ceiling at all, just a tiered cap.
The woods are behind the trees.'"
Yes that is one reason but it had many others also.
media.therfl.co.uk/docs/Super%20 ... %20PDF.pdf
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Quote: rubber duckie "It's purpose was to stop clubs from spending money the couldn't afford.
Trying to address clubs running at a loss.
Which it hasn't for almost all teams still, Leeds eventually made a profit, but didn't stop teams from spending more, cheating to win SL and in cases going bust, over and over, and in other cases, cheating the cap to avoid relegation....all penalised with a deferred fine and deferred points deducted, that they then appealed and got lifted...so much there's the mockery of punishment to prove it's there to make an even competition.
The rfl may be dressing it up and even able to state it primarily that it is there to make a more even competition, but if this was truly the objective, why is it not then compulsory for each club to pay full cap?....this is the only way to have a market where balance could theoretically be achieved... Perhaps this conflicts with British/European law, I don't know, but it is the only way.
So however the rfl want to dress it up, without that rule it's just bollox....which it is now completely bollox since the marquee ruling, because now there is no ceiling at all, just a tiered cap.
The woods are behind the trees.'"
Yes that is one reason but it had many others also.
media.therfl.co.uk/docs/Super%20 ... %20PDF.pdf
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| Cheers...
I'll let others read that, there is a lot more bollox to take in.
I'll just straighten out the misconception that it's just there to make the competition equal.
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| I think it was necessary at the time - some clubs with low attendances were living beyond their means and I’m almost certain some of them would have collapsed. The cap sort of forced them into a moderation mindset and now some of those clubs have new boards and better facilities with much better crowds.
It has evened up the playing field in a certain respect as we don’t have a big four trouncing the little clubs every week. However, we are still yet to see one of the smaller clubs win a trophy in the super league era. I wouldn’t back against Castleford, Wakefield or Huddersfield to win the challenge cup soon. It’s been building for a while.
That said, we haven’t seen the game expand really in that time, and we have seen a decline in grass rooots and talent coming through.
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| When it came in all clubs were spending more than they brought in.
Even the pre SL mighty Wigan of the 80s were spent up to the hilt and relied on a visit to Wembley to help balance the wage bill and massive transfer fees...loans.
Salford shock defeat masterminded by Andy Gregory virtual bankrupt the club.
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| The Wigan philosophy lately seems to be to plead injuries for most of the season & blood all the young fringe players then wheel out the big guns for games that matter.
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| Quote: rubber duckie "Cheers...
I'll let others read that, there is a lot more bollox to take in.
I'll just straighten out the misconception that it's just there to make the competition equal.'"
The VERY first two clauses in the document introduction cite that it is there to make the competition equal.
[i1.1.1. to protect the integrity of the Super League competition by ensuring that the determinative factor in the sporting outcome is on-field sporting merit and not off- field financial considerations;
1.1.2 to ensure that the Super League competition remains competitive and therefore attractive to spectators and commercial partners by preventing Clubs with greater financial resources dominating the competition and by ensuring a balanced spread of Players among the participating Clubs;[/i
The Third clause is about preventing clubs from trading beyond their means.
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1.1.3 to protect and nurture a broad competitive playing structure by preventing Clubs trading beyond their means and/or entering into damaging and unsustainable financial arrangements; [/i
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| Sums it up nicely!
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