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| Quote The Angry Pirate="The Angry Pirate"buy and listen to the music that YOU like'"
Rage Against The Machine is the music that I like.
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| I have to say too I only found out a few minutes ago who this Joe fella is and what a soppy Geordie get. He seems to think he's a better vocalist than Zack de la Rocha too and although I haven't heard him I'm 99% certain that he is not.
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| Quote staffs wire="staffs wire"
The comment that HJ Bird [merry Christmas to you made is a valid one ,but the RAGTM protest is about the future of the music industry as a whole not just Christmas which some feel passionate about
No one is forcing people to buy RAGTM, it is about offering an alternative to the X factor which which people can rally around . We live in a democracy it's a protest song ! You chose to buy it or you don't.
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Rubbish.....'The future of the Music industry'?????.....  ....What total nonsense.
The charts, for this is what you are protesting about, have always simply been a tool for record companies to make their profits....Yes, the make-up of them have changed, especially since the introduction of the 'download', but the charts have always been a reflection of the general people's tastes....This so-called protest is an absolute joke, driven by people who have some nonsensical idea that the charts were once a credible existance, full of credible music...
Cowell and his puppets aren't my cup of tea, but rather than be suckered into the hype, which is all this campaign has done, I will simply continue what I have always done and simply listen to, and buy, the music that I want to listen to and I will ignore the charts, which in the main for myself, have always been in a shocking state, and certainly were a long time before Cowell and his X Factor machine got involved... 
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| Thanks angry pirate love you too
Even though may disagree on the cause is it not better to get passionate about something rather than be apathetic about everything ?
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| Quote staffs wire="staffs wire"
Even though may disagree on the cause is it not better to get passionate about something rather than be apathetic about everything ?'"
Sure, but why get upset about something that has always been as it is now.....A survey of the general public's musical tastes??
You are sadly mistaken if you believe that Simon Cowell and X Factor have single handedly manipulated the charts....All that has happened in recent years is that music has become more accessable to more people, thus, they have become even more so than ever, a reflection of the general public's tastes.
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| Quote The Angry Pirate="The Angry Pirate"Sure, but why get upset about something that has always been as it is now.....A survey of the general public's musical tastes??
You are sadly mistaken if you believe that Simon Cowell and X Factor have single handedly manipulated the charts....All that has happened in recent years is that music has become more accessable to more people, thus, they have become even more so than ever, a reflection of the general public's tastes.'"
........but there is a difference, as the sheer audience numbers for the X Factor gives any record featured on it an overarching advantage over all other options. There has always been 'showbiz' music in the charts, as you say, and I admire Simon Cowell's ability to make money out of re-tread of a TV format that has been doing the rounds since Opportunity Knocks. However, no previous TV show had this sort of power, so it does undoubtedly distort the Christmas No 1 race.
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| Quote Asgardian13="Asgardian13"........but there is a difference, as the sheer audience numbers for the X Factor gives any record featured on it an overarching advantage over all other options. There has always been 'showbiz' music in the charts, as you say, and I admire Simon Cowell's ability to make money out of re-tread of a TV format that has been doing the rounds since Opportunity Knocks. However, no previous TV show had this sort of power, so it does undoubtedly distort the Christmas No 1 race.'"
Who exactly is bothered by who wins the race for the Christmas No 1? If a "classic Christmas song" was released this year and only made No 2 it would still be the song that will get belted out of every shop/pub/bar/office for years to come instead of this xfactor bloke.
Not that the charts are relevant to anything except who sold the most singles in a week anyway.
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| Quote Asgardian13="Asgardian13" However, no previous TV show had this sort of power, so it does undoubtedly distort the Christmas No 1 race.'"
No, it doesn't distort anything...it reflects the power of TV.
Over the years, Nick Berry, Benny Hill, and a whole lot more chart toppers have used the power of TV to have big hits....Cowell is simply another one of those, only in a more polished way.
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| I am not getting angry about it Angry Pirate I am just taking part in a public protest, which is something everyone should support the principle of,if not the aim.
I am not asking you to support it as that is your choice,but isn't great that it has got so many people talking and interested on both sides for whatever reasons.
Thats whats great about our country.
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| At the end of the day its abit of harmless fun.
Bring back Robson and Jerome.
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| Exactly right lets enjoy it's Christmas !
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| There we go then. Power to the people.
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